Ep190: David Pajo (Slint, Papa M, Zwan, Household Gods, Tortoise, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Interpol, Dead Child, Stereolab)

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David Pajo has played with everybody from Billy Corgan, Karen O, Neil Hagerty to… well, Conan Neutron. To this day, he’s still most known for being a member of the iconic, influential and genre defining band Slint. Listen in on a bit of all of that as well as talk of DEAD CHILD (the band), Papa M (of course), touring with Yeah Yeah Yeahs and Interpol, a smidgen of talk about Household Gods. The band with David Pajo, Vern Rumsey of Unwound, LKN and uh… another guy. He’s a suicide and motorcycle accident survivor, a master musician and a hell of a nice guy. It’s… David Pajo!

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  • Ep190: David Pajo (Slint, Papa M, Zwan, Household Gods, Tortoise, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Interpol, Dead Child, Stereolab)

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    David Pajo has played with everybody from Billy Corgan, Karen O, Neil Hagerty to… well, Conan Neutron. To this day, he’s still most known for being a member of the iconic, influential and genre defining band Slint. Listen in on a bit of all of that as well as talk of DEAD CHILD (the band), Papa M (of course), touring with Yeah Yeah Yeahs and Interpol, a smidgen of talk about Household Gods. The band with David Pajo, Vern Rumsey of Unwound, LKN and uh… another guy. He’s a suicide and motorcycle accident survivor, a master musician and a hell of a nice guy. It’s… David Pajo!

  • Ep189: Ross Knight (Cosmic Psychos)

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    Australian pub/scum rock legends the Cosmic Psychos have blazed a trail of uncompromising working man’s punk rock, leaving both good times and empty beer cans in their wake for 38 years. The man at that helm is Mr. Ross Knight, a pleasantly rowdy fellow who literally lives on a farm, and is most certainly a bloke you can trust.

    Listen in! Go the hack on this episode of Protonic Reversal down under. 

  • Ep188: A Deer, A Horse (Rebecca, Angela, Dylan)

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    NYC Band A Deer A Horse are quarantined, but they did manage to get in some touring first. This is a free wheeling conversation with a young, working co-ed band in the somewhat uniform (and largely male!) genre of noise rock. Best and worst shows, the nature of rock crit. All of that and more! Three very thoughtful and funny folks breaking it down. 

  • Ep187: Phill Calvert (The Birthday Party)

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    From the Boys Next Door to Junkyard, Phill was on the drums in the mighty and majestic Birthday Party. From the earliest days, all the way to the iconoclastic and influential Junkyard. Listen in! Noise + Nick Cave at his most unhinged, post-punk history told straight from one of the fellas that made it. Dang!

  • Ep186: Rick Valentin and Rose Marshack (Poster Children, Radio Zero)

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    Rick and Rose have had an incredible history in music, largely with their band the Poster Children. Navigating the original indie label movement, the early 90s gold rush, and the “I like it small” modern indie rock movement. All with an eye towards sustainability and making informed choices towards those goals. Rick and Rose have both appeared before, but this episode focuses on an album by album account, and all the sidebars that entails! It is like a Radio Zero crossover episode.

  • Ep185: The Culture of Like and Subscribe with Steve Albini

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    LIKEANDSUBSCRIBE!LIKEANDSUBSCRIBE!DON’TFORGETTOLIKEANDSUBSCRIBE!

    It’s ubiquitous, every show and thing out there is trying to work the algorithms to be heard, seen or otherwise recognized. 

    This episode is a 1 on 1 talk with Mr. Steve Albini about exactly that. This was meant as a 20 minute episode based on the single topic, but we expanded to other things, including monetization in general, commodification, etc. 

  • Ep184: Tony Visconti (Producer: David Bowie, T. Rex, Iggy Pop, Thin Lizzy)

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    Tony Visconti is a legend in recording, not just Bowie’s long time producer, but a member of his band in the Man Who Sold the World days. Listen in as we hear tales from almost all eras of Bowie, as well as his work with Marc Bolan/T. Rex, Iggy Pop’s the Idiot, and Thin Lizzy (!). WOW!

  • Ep183: Rob Montage (Waxeater)

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    WAXEATER is a band from Louisville, KY. Rob is a teacher by day and noiserocker by night. He’s a good talker and has many opinions. He’s also very entertaining. They have a brand new record called Extra Medium, their first in *checks notes*, a VERY long time. Listen in, it’s a song by song breakdown and lots, lots more. 

  • Ep182: Jordan Sobolew (Reptoid)

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    “One man noise-rock Aneursym from Oakland, California”  Let that sink in. Reptoid sounds like the End of the World, but… you know in a good way. What kind of man embarks on an arduous endeavor like this? Jordan Sobolew.

  • Ep181: KatieJane Garside (Daisy Chainsaw, Liar,Flower, Queen Adreena)

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    KatieJane Garside is a bit of an enigma for some. She has a new album under the name Liar, Flower with longtime collaborator Chris Whittingham. We talk about that: all her various bands (like Queen Adreena and Daisy Chainsaw), living on a boat, meditation, sublimation and eradication of self in creative pursuits and and many other things.

  • Ep180: Jared Warren (Big Business, the Whip, KARP, Melvins)

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    Jared Warren has done a LOT. And with the recent release of the compendium of the “lost” band between KARP and Big Biz: The Whip, there’s even more to listen to now. Listen in as Jared and Conan talk about and around Scotty, the Big Business arc, the time in and around the Melvins and a little bit about the…  KARP reissues?!

    It might be the most detailed accounting of Big Business around!

  • Ep179: Travis Keller (Buddyhead, American Primitive)

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    Travis’s site Buddyhead is a name associated with iconoclastic irreverence to this DAY. In the days before everybody had a hot take, and the ability to take down sacred cows, Buddyhead ruled the school Now he’s pivoted towards making things himself.

    Travis returns for his THIRD protonic episode, to talk about those days as well as the various zines, videos (Mark Lanegan!), shirts and things that he is up to with American Primitive. Oh yeah, and Amanda Palmer splitting up with Neil Gaiman over Patreon for some reason.

    (this episode takes place BEFORE the recent uprisings)

  • Zak Sally - Low, the Hand, Enemymine

    Ep178: Zak Sally (The Hand, Low, Enemymine)

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    Zak Sally is known best for being the bassplayer of Low or his comics, but he is also in an absolutely incendiary band called THE HAND with Dale Flattum of Steel Pole Bath Tub. All that is discussed, as well as general pandemic stuff. 

  • Ep177: Dan Gatto (BABYLAND, Continues)

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    The revolutionary and incredible electronic junk punk band BABYLAND was a huge influence on Conan, here they discuss that iconic band’s origin, moving from one off art project to DIY paragons. The world around early 90s weird music in LA. Moving on with Continues and quite a bit about the general state of everything in these Covid-19 times.
    (note: this episode takes place before the George Floyd killing and subsequent uprisings)

    Here is a youtube version of the show (a grand experiment!)

  • Ep176: David Scott Stone (LCD Soundsystem, Melvins, Unwound, Big Business, Slug, Get Hustle, etc.)

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    Dave Scott Stone has done a *LOT*, being an auxiliary member of Big Business, Unwound and the Melvins. To joining LCD Soundsystem, to making soundtracks with a member of Duran Duran! Listen in on this talented man’s incredible journey in music and hear the true story of the falling out with Melvins. 

  • Ep175: Jerry Casale (DEVO) pt. 2

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    Jerry Casale’s full length appearance in episode 159 was expansive in scope and covered quite a bit, but we didn’t get to everything. Soooo… Mr. Casale returned for what WAS to be a quick 20-30 minute followup.

    Listen in as Jerry and Conan talk about the insane story of the movie Human Highway and DEVO’s association with Neil Young. The anniversary of the Kent State shootings. The Are We Not Men? / ChiChi Rodriguez artwork story, the 50 by 50 winery, the (still yet unreleased) DEVO documentary and yes… the source of “Show me some of what’s about to happen.” (Hint: Ben Orr of the Cars) and lots more.

  • Ep174: Martin Atkins (PiL, Pigface, Killing Joke)

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    Martin Atkins has had an incredible lifetime in and around music, listen in as he and Conan go into great depth on the historic and iconic Flowers of Romance record by Public Image Limited, including performing on American Bandstand (!) and doing everything the most difficult way possible with that group. Working with Killing Joke and non-relatable songwriting, the inception and continuing wild ride of Pigface, borne off of Ministry touring. Reveling in the unexpected and using the chaos as a change agent. Abandonment of ego to create a greater whole.

    All of this plus his journey into academia and his excellent (and very funny) general advice for working smart as a band and finding what it is that makes the band special. Some of which can be found in his (FREE!) book: Band Smart: Succeed On the Music Business on Your Own Terms.

  • Ep173: Ryan Christopher Parks (B. Hamilton)

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    Ryan Parks fancies himself a blues man. But the songwriter behind Oakland rockers B. Hamilton is a lot deeper than just that… listen in on the crazy train of Oakland’s B. Hamilton. Songwriting, process, inspiration and history, the Gilligan’s Island of “covers of others”, and being part of the hit song from Sorry to Bother You.

  • Ep172: Tad Doyle (TAD, Brothers of the Sonic Cloth)

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    Tad Doyle is a rock pioneer, who was around and working during the “gold rush days” of grunge and well after, as well as the proprietor of Witch Ape Studios. Hear about the rise and fall of Tad, a little bit of Hog Molly, the incredible rebirth with Brothers of the Sonic Cloth and everything else. This talk gets deep! From artwork cease and desists to serious discussions on mental health.

  • Ep171: Ronnie Barnett (the Muffs)

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    Ronnie is/was 1/3 of the mighty Muffs! He’s a raconteur of the highest order and has had an incredible career in music with the amazing Kim Shattuck (R.I.P.). Listen in on the tales of an incredible rock and roll career, from a surprise hit song in the movie Clueless as well as a detailed accounting of the final Muffs record. Which was completed during Kim’s two year battle with ALS.

  • Ep170: Mario Rubalcaba (Earthless, OFF!, Hot Snakes, Rocket From the Crypt, Clikitat Ikatowi)

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    It is another “stay at home” Protonic Reversal with special guest: drummer Mario Rubalcaba (Earthless, OFF!, Hot Snakes, RFTC, Clikitat Ikatowi)! This guy has done it all… six degrees of Rubalcaba. Hear about joining RFTC and Hot Snakes, punk rock basements and the wild and wooly path of the mighty Earthless! All this, a little pro skating stuff and some serious record geek talk. OK!

  • Ep169: Tom Hazelmyer (Amphetamine Reptile)

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    AmRep! A record label, a lifestyle brand, a way of life. Tom Hazelmyer lives and breathes art, limited edition linocuts and uncompromising music for genuine weirdos!

  • Ep168: Salvation (Jason, Santiago, Victor)

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    Jason, Santiago and Victor are the Chicago rock band Salvation, they have a new record called “Year of the Fly” and are both affable and interesting fellas, and a band worth paying attention to. https://salvationrockandroll.bandcamp.com/

  • Ep167: Alexander Hacke & Danielle De Picciotto (Hackeddepicciotto)

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    Hackedepicciotto are itinerant nomads making soundtracks for life, and it’s a pandemic. You may know Alexander from his other band Einstürzende Neubauten, this here episode is a talk with the duo about tour, the nature of performance and connection, and yoga music for people who hate yoga music. (apologies for less than ideal sound quality on Conan’s part, there was a bad piece of equipment, since rectified)

  • Ep166: Lori Barbero (Babes in Toyland)

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    Lori Barbero is a living legend. As the power behind the propulsive drumming of Babes in Toyland, she was a participant in several incredible epochs of crazy music. Although she’s currently going through a crazy picture archive during the pandemic, she took time out to talk to Conan Neutron about all things Babes in Toyland, DIY, music and the year Punk Broke and well after. 

  • Ep165: Allen Epley (Shiner, The Life and Times)

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    Allen Epley is not only in the incredible Shiner and The Life and Times, he also hosts his own show called Third Gear Scratch. Oh yeah, and his day job is in the Blue Man Group. What? We talk about that and the BRAND NEW SHINER RECORD, as well as lots more on… PROTONIC REVERSAL.

  • Ep164: Brian Walsby (Cartoonist, Shiny Beast, Polvo)

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    Brian Walsby is a cartoonist, he also played drums in Polvo and in a band called Shiny Beast (which features a member that went on to be in Red Fang), he’s also known for running merch for the Melvins where his cartoon parodies of popular books, records, movies and tv shows are the delight of discerning music fan. He’s also written a book on being self-employed called “self empunishment”. Anyway, the guy has stories for days and is a treasure trove of music knowledge, even if he isn’t actively playing it now. Dig in!

  • Ep163: Kate Wakefield (Lung)

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    Kate Wakefield is a cellist, vocalist and part of the incredible duo Lung. Lung tour hard, and have an unforgettable and powerful live show. An incredible and intense performer and an undeniable talent.
    Kate took the time to talk to Conan about everything from touring, poetry, Brock Turner and the American patriarchy. There’s a lot to learn from this iconoclastic lady, listen in.

  • Ep162: Mike Morasky (Steel Pole Bath Tub, Milk Cult)

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    Iconic guitarist and composer, Mr. Mike Morasky comes on Protonic Reversal for an awesome freewheeling conversation centered largely around the enigmatic and mysterious Steel Pole Bath Tub and Milk Cult.

  • Ep161: Chris Spencer (Human Impact, Unsane)

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    Chris Spencer is most known for the brutal, uncompromising and iconoclastic rockers UNSANE. Whose gory and explicit album art was equally as vicious as the music contained within. After 30 years of Unsane he’s teamed up with some friends and collaborators for a much different kind of band, the moody and often slow-burning Human Impact. Chris sits down with Conan to talk about all that during the pandemic. 

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