Ep269: Shannon Selberg (Heroine Sheiks, the Cows)

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After episode 206‘s epic length discussion of the Cows, it is only fair to do a deep dive into the discography of the mighty Heroine Sheiks! Especially now that Out of Aferica  is being released on vinyl for the FIRST TIME. Hear how this very specific keyboard music came together as a NY band that was operating along with the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Interpol and such. Shannon Selberg is a deep thinking and an interesting guy, let’s listen in on the man’s criminally ignored second act and lots, lots more. 

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  • Ep269: Shannon Selberg (Heroine Sheiks, the Cows)

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    After episode 206‘s epic length discussion of the Cows, it is only fair to do a deep dive into the discography of the mighty Heroine Sheiks! Especially now that Out of Aferica  is being released on vinyl for the FIRST TIME. Hear how this very specific keyboard music came together as a NY band that was operating along with the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Interpol and such. Shannon Selberg is a deep thinking and an interesting guy, let’s listen in on the man’s criminally ignored second act and lots, lots more. 

  • Ep268: Ben Verellen (Helms Alee, Verellen Amps, Harkonen)

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  • Ep267: Trevor Dunn (Mr. Bungle, Fantomas, SpermChurch)

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    The relentless Trevor Dunn is back! This time with SpermChurch an international poly electro collaborative duo with electronic artist Sannety, releasing the brand new merdeka atau mati on his brand new label Riverworm Records. In this episode we discuss, growing up in Humboldt county and the origins of Mr. Bungle as well as the beginning and “cybernetic caveman” of the Raging Wrath of the Eastern Bunny demo. Fantomas origins, collaborations, and  a run through of Disco Volante, California, the Mr. Bungle s/t amongst others. RETROVERTIGO, jazz pick up bands and lots more. All of that and a whole lot about this fascinating new release and collaboration.

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  • Ep265: Tony Aguilar (All Souls, Totimoshi)

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    All Souls is a fascinating newer band! Although he lives in Los Angeles now, running the excellent Eastside Rehearsal studios, Tony and Conan know each other from the bay area heavy/noisy rock world. All Souls is a bit of a different animal though. Hear all about their touring with the Jesus Lizard, Melvins and TOOL, the band’s origin story and concept. Erik Trammel and Matt Price! Whatever happened with Last Days of Ancient Sunlight? This episode has a good overview, if not totally comprehensive look at the Totimoshi discography. Some background on Tony’s… well… background. Rig Rundown! All that plus Tony’s tales of tour managing and road crewing bands like Neurosis, High On Fire, Melvins and more. 

  • Ep264: James Woodard (The Grasshopper Lies Heavy)

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    San Antonio’s The Grasshopper Lies Heavy have been making uncompromising heavy music for over 10 years. They have a brand new one “A Cult That Worships a God of Death
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  • Ep263: Aaron Beam (Red Fang)

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  • Ep261: Johnny Temple (Girls Against Boys, Soulside, Fake Names, Akashic Books)

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  • Ep260: Erica Dunn (Tropical Fuck Storm, Mod Con, Palm Springs)

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    The iconic, unmistakable and mighty Erica Dunn of Mod Con and TFS stops in to chat many things musical, Covid and what not. The existential whiplash of hitting it hard on the road and playing music to the dead stop of the pandemic. Thrill to the brand new Mod Con single Ammo (and subsequent album!) and hear a bit about the tantalizingly mysterious new TFS album DEEP STATES. The path to playing music FOR REAL, playing live shows again, the origins of Palm Springs. What makes You Let My Tyres Down such a unique and cool song. Layers and layers, space in Mod Con and maximalism in TFS… all that and more, more, more!

  • Ep259: Dana Viloria (Wavebreaker, Turbo Lightning, Batwings Catwings)

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    Dana’s band Wavebreaker is an intersectional rock band centering the needs and lived experiences of girls, women, and femmes of color. A passionate advocate for progressive politics, Wavebreaker is explicitly political, pointed and ready to rock in the name of freedom and equality. Enter: Interdependence. Formed from the excellent Batwings Catwings and featuring members of Turbo Lightning at the Mae-shi, listen in as Dana talks about the overall game plan and strategy of walking the walk politically while still making great tunes, standing rock, rocking while being a female POC, skating and lots more. 

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    Lindsey Charles! 

  • Ep257: Steve Pike (Exhalants)

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  • Ep256: Dave Norwood (The Gary)

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  • Ep255: Dave Leto (Rye Coalition)

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    Rye has an amazing arc! From sweaty basement post-hardcore/noise rock rippers, to anthemic big rock power houses. Much of this is outlined in the excellent documentary “Rye Coalition: The Story of the Hard Luck 5“, but listen in as Dave talks about everything from splits with KARP and the LAST SHOW at Princeton, John Sherman… wasted, touring with Queens of the Stone Age and Foo Fighters all the way to hobnobbing with the rock ‘n roll elite and going for the brass ring. Through it all: the friendship is the through line. Along with some killer riffs. And stay tuned for a very revealing protonic exclusive!

  • Ep254: Mike Lust (Tight Phantomz, Lustre King, Solo)

     

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    The enigmatic rocker Mike Lust has a brand new record called Demented Wings. We go deep into a song by song breakdown of that record, as well as a lot about the legendary double album SILK PRISON by Tight Phantomz. Phantomz on Breaking Bad! Lustre King and about a million things more. 

  • Ep253: Aaron Beam (Red Fang)

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    The mighty Red Fang is back with a brand new record called ARROWS. Listen it as Aaron speaks with Conan about: Party Time to Red Fang,  Prehistoric Dog! Making a band that keeps the heavy, but spares the sextant, being handpicked by Metallica for Orion fest and still being able to be a little star struck. Thoughts on memories on the S/T, Murder the Mountains and Whales and Leeches and the in-depth story of Red Fang’s totally badass appearance on David Letterman. Also, check out PART 2!

  • Ep252: Chris Brokaw (Come, Codeine, The New Year, Martha’s Vineyard Ferries, Solo)

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    From Come and Codeine, to The New Year and MVF, to his excellent solo albums, Chris Brokaw has done QUITE A BIT. In depth Codeine talk (the unreleased second record?!?), Come through the ages, The New Year origin and more, playing with Clint Conley of Mission of Burma in Consonant, the Martha’s Vineyard Ferries. So much! So much music talk. Oberlin! NY. All that plus a track by track run through of the excellent Puritan record that came out early this year. Let’s do it!

  • Ep251: Eric Fundingsland (“Why Am I Doing This?” Tour Documentary, The Bismarck)

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    Eric of The Bismarck‘s comprehensive documentary on touring “Why Am Doing This?” has been setting the internet on fire! The harsh but hilarious focus on smaller bands, shared experiences, touring etiquette and where adventure can turn to compulsion and trauma. Eric and Conan get into all of the details of creating this wonderful document, what did and didn’t make it in. Unique challenges and pitfalls, and lots of other things. 

  • Ep250: Gerald Casale of DEVO interviews Conan Neutron

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    Yes, you read that right. One of the founders of DEVO suggested turning the tables on Conan for the 7 Year and 250 episode milestone. What, we are going to say no? Although nobody could have predicted that Conan’s mother would be killed in a car crash that week. That is discussed, as well as what set Conan on his creative path. The complicated legacy and catalyst of Clay Wofford, the origin of Conan Neutron & the Secret Friends, Protonic in the time of COVID (a piece of wreckage after the shipwreck), getting on stage in front of people, the genius of Toshi Kasai and asking Dale Crover to be part of Conan Neutron & the Secret Friends. Lessons learned from all of that. New Conan Neutron & the Secret Friends plans, being too angry to write music. Hall monitors and following rules that don’t make sense. Getting out there and so much more. LOOK, it’s Jerry Casale of DEVO talking to Conan Neutron. Cool? Cool.

    (PS: If you want to hear Gerald Casale talk about DEVO, check out: Part 1 and Part 2 of his award winning protonic appearances* and the Something for Everybody 10 year special. More DEVO than you can shake a stick at there.)

    *no actual awards won.

  • Ep249: Hugo Burnham (Gang of Four)

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    Critical thinking. Ephemerality v. Timelessness, Getting drunk on far more expensive wine. Songs of the Free, tracking and revising songs for Return the Gift. Trading creative control vs. bigger bucks. Top of the Pops! (“You’re welcome Duran Duran”) EMI and Warner Brothers, SOLID GOLD and Another Day, Another Dollar. ANTHRAX! The theatre of beating up the microwave. The massive undertaking that is the breathtaking Gang of Four box set 77-81, the tension of Entertainment! and the Band of Brothers of classic Gang of Four, URGH! A music war, PARALYZED, The passing of Andy Gill. Possible new Gang of Four activity. The should have been hit of To Hell With Poverty. Custom Premier kits and A&R. RtJ, Frank Ocean.

  • Ep248: Greg Norton (Hüsker Dü, Gang Font, Porcupine)

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    Power trios! New Day Rising (by Robert Palmer), The upcoming LIVE Husker album HÜSKER DÜ – LONGHORN TONIGHT-Double Album (protonic exclusive), the Savage Young Dü box set. The Mustache. The Great Gildersleeves show and the Replacements not getting paid. Album by album HD memories, Zen Arcade rock opera, 2 track live Reoccuring Dreams. and the Minutemen. Ice Cold Ice, major labels, Hüsker Düdes, Gang Font aging like fine wine and Porcupine.

    Holy moly! It is Greg Norton. 

  • Ep247: Mick Harvey (Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, The Birthday Party, PJ Harvey, Solo Artist)

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  • Ep246: Craig Wedren (Shudder to Think)

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  • Ep245: Eugene Robinson (Oxbow, Whipping Boy)

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    The mighty Eugene Robinson returns… after…140+ episodes and 4 years? We talk about Oxbow signing with IPECAC for the new record, his recent substack writing, a whole lot about the monumental Oxbow record Thin Black Duke and the Thin Black Book. The difference between BECOMING and being, playing OXBOW music and many other things. We get into the tale of BLACK FACE with Chuck Dukowski of Black Flag, Diamonda Galas capsule reviews and tons more. 

  • Ep244: Elisha Wiesner (The Martha’s Vineyard Ferries, Kahoots)

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    Fookin’ Ferries are back with a kick ass full length record “Suns Out Guns Out“. Hear a bit about being a geographically disparate outfit, playing Brokaw chords, not thinking too hard about what the band sounds like, just sounding like it, the many ways a Ferries song comes together, Greens Fees, and a full on song by song breakdown of the new MVF record.

  • Ep243: Tim Cedar (Part Chimp)

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    Silly riffs and other such tales. The mighty Part Chimp have a brand new record DROOL, available on Wrong Speed in the UK and Europe and on Learning Curve Records in the US. We go through Drool song by song, and talk of Truman’s Water, Live shows, being a cultural magpie. Part Chimp play along videos, sci-fi album covers and having some time to actually write lyrics ahead of time. Lyric book and all! Tune it down to B and listen in. 

  • Ep242: David Yow (The Jesus Lizard, Scratch Acid)

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    It is the one and only David Yow! Singer and frontman of The Jesus Lizard and Scratch Acid. Part time singer of Flipper, Qui… and star of stage and screen! Look, look, look, so much to get to here. We talk about acting. Also, since it is the 30th anniversary of The Jesus Lizard – Goat we go in depth into that record SONG BY SONG. Is Monkey Trick the best Jesus Lizard song? All that, Get Shorty, blues covers of TJL and lots and lots more.

  • Ep241: Andrew “Falco” Falkous (mclusky, Future of the Left, Christian Fitness)

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    Yes, yes! The unmistakable Falco returns to Protonic Reversal. We talk about GATEWAY BAND, the new mclusky* live record that comes with a demo of things to come. Creating and the act of creating. SONGS! SONGS! SONGS! More songs than a song convention? SING IT. They may be ones you may or may not get to hear. Christian Fitness, Future of the Left, back issues. Shipping records. Cardiff –> London —> Bristol. Kelson the dentist. Look, look… the man has been on at least 7 times over the years. There’s a good reason. A DELIGHTFUL CHAT. Chock full of delight, really.

  • Ep240: Cheshire Agusta (Stinking Lizaveta)

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    Cheshire Agusta is a powerhouse drummer and living legend. The long running, uncompromising and utterly relentless Stinking Liz are the pride of West Philly and known the world over. Listen in as this relentless master of the drums and paragon of live performance breaks down the musical conversation where everybody is talking, all of the different exciting drum minutia you might imagine and so very much more. This is a far ranging conversation, and that’s without the antics of Dr. Fly. 

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