Ep473: Anthony Baldino (Composer)

Conveyor is not even the album Los Angeles based composer and sound designer Anthony Baldino set out to make. A dark, cathartic modular synth based exploration of grief that has more in common with the Blade Runner soundtrack then the IDM of the previous record. How the ugliest sounds can make for the coolest effect, in his own compositions and working with Ludwig Göransson on movies like Tenet, Wakanda Forever and the Odyssey. Why Christoper Nolan's scores often exist before the picture, why low end matters in ambient and cinematic music. When a show becomes an art installation... Marrying digital art with 1850s photography (Daguerreotype) with the album cover. Seeing Tenet in IMAX in a nearly deserted theater. The harrowing story behind "Leave the Reminder" and the plea behind "Live Forever". [...]

Ep472: Steve Pike (Porcelain, Exhalants)

Porcelain have just released their second record Today's Minor Victories a raucous and authoritative noise-rock/post-punk/post-hardcore whatever collection of songs sure to delight fans of Sonic Youth, Unwound, Blonde Redhead, Slint, etc. Steve has been on the show, but in the time after Exhalants and before Porcelain was a thing. Ep227 in 2021! So needless to say this is overdue. We talk about the formation of the band, playing in a two guitar band with Ryan and all the incredible work they have done as aband. The personal nature of the lyrics for this one. How Scott Evans recording process led to their best record yet. House music being played at the same volume as the bands between bands, the physical toll of live audio work, bombastic outros and millennial dread, walking somebody through life threatening crisis, challenging masculinity and sexual norms, writing a song while grieving his grandmother, and "I'm Going to Live Through This Apocalypse". it's a great far-reaching and deep conversation. [...]

Ep471: Ale Campos(Iggy Pop, Las Nubes)

Ale Campos's band Las Nubes is fantastic, but equally fantastic is her road work as Iggy Pop's live guitarist after meeting him at a record store. We hear about how that has come to pass, getting that last minute call, and the kind of world she operates in when playing with Iggy, a living legend. We speak of Tormentas Malsanas the most recent Las Nubes record, recorded with Jonathan Nuñez, Ale's path into music in Florida, including being in a secret christian band, and her disinterest in being a frontperson, how Ale writes hooks (odd time surprises) How Ale's custom aluminum guitar ended up being a divorce gift and so much more! [...]

Ep470: Jay Blumenfield (Too Much Joy, Wonderlick)

Wonderlick, a band that comes together through drunk voice notes and instant demos, has a new record with Appalachian folk musicians backing them! We talk about the making of that record Wonderlick Loves You, and how Jay and Tim even met all these musicians, as well as recording in a cabin studio... how house show tours changed their music and record. The Too Much Joy reunion tour and record, deluxe reissues, creative liberty v. touring limits. How being rebellious power-pop for smart people isn't usually a path to mainstream success. What purposefully sitting down and writing a hit felt like. How Too Much Joy sold the first Pay What You Want record BEFORE Radiohead burning out and then picking up the guitar again, all this and a lot of talk of Branson, Missouri and Yakov Smirnoff and the failed pilot Jay tried to make with him. It has been quite a awhile since Jay's TMJ and Wonderlick bandmate Tim Quirk was on the show, which included a new Too Much Joy record and tour, so let's get into it and how likely it is we will see Too Much Joy stuff in the future. [...]

Ep469: Ryan Güt (Stöner, Brant Bjork Trio, Mario Lalli & The Rubber Snake Charmers, The Shastafarian)

Chances are you know Ryan from playing drums in the desert rock supergroup Stöner, Mario Lalli & The Rubber Snake Charmers or the incredible Brant Bjork Trio, but did you know that Ryan is a multi-instrumentalist who actually started on piano? All of this is on display in his impressive debut record The Shastafarian, evoking everything from Funkadelic, Thin Lizzy to Tom Petty the record is very cool but may not be what you expect. Much talk about the making of that record, as well as the origins of Stöner, Tao of the Devil, Mount Shasta, how being adopted has sculpted Ryan's life, being true to your vision, producing yourself, the demo process, the unique process of live improv the Rubber Snake Charmers and so much more! [...]

Ep468: Mr. Phylzzz (Clinton Jacob and Danny Sein)

Dem Phylzzz boyz are at it again! That's right, new record "Fear the Lord" AND a tour. As well as a live record where everybody is vociferously booing, jeering and shouting insults. no kidding. Super group Gatta Morta. How Clinton recording with Buzz, Pinkus and Coady came to pass. How not caring about insignificant details resulted in them making their boldest record. Vetting bands and created shows that are good vibes, what goes into making a good music video and the story behind the Rodeo Clown video. How trusting each other musically changed their writing, How kindness wins, and why people don't want to help people who are rotten. Shortcuts and the WORK required for true success, how comedy shaped the Phylzzz stage persona, merch business and when studio songs don't need to be played live. Clinton singing History of Bad Men with Melvins live. The story behind Abby and her brief tenure as the third Phylzzz. What makes a song the best and being ruthless with cutting what doesn't serve it. An examination of modern social media from youtube clips to touring with Harry Styles and how one reel led to a million plays. All that and SO MUCH MORE. [...]

Ep467: Dave Catching (Rancho De La Luna, Desert Sessions, Earthlings?, Mojave Lords, Eagles of Death Metal, QOTSA)

The incredible impresario of Rancho De La Luna at last returns to Protonic Reversal! The studio, home to so many classic records, including the legendary Desert Sessions. The Rancho Mezcal! the studio anniversary recording project, Why live shows are harder than they look, and the unique challenges for Earthlings? The Queens of the Stone Age origin story, Dave originally coming to Joshua Tree. loss, age and why you must get on it NOW/ All that as well as the time Iggy flashed a first time fan, as well as the time Iggy threw a mic stand at Larry, and… you know, the whole Post Pop Depression record. The “No New Normal” movie. Surviving the Bataclan attack in Eagles of Death Metal and returning to play, Joe Walsh’s “tone secret”, being part of the 9th most streamed record of all time with the Arctic Monkeys. It doesn’t seem possible that it ahs been 8 years since Dave was last on, but here we are! [...]

Ep466: Johnny Iguana (the Claudettes, Oh My God)

The Claudettes new record Garage Glamour might be their best! The piano driven cabaret/blues/R&B group have always had a punk spirit that veers into the film noir world, but this is the first album with powerhouse singer Rachel Williams. The exciting story and theories behind Don’t Give It Up to the Thieves, and a Bezos blackmail opera. Growth as a musical artist and using your band’s strength, the Bass VI, Why Johnny wants every household to have a piano, We talk about all that as well as Johnny scoring the smash TV series “The Bear” with JQ on a QUICK turnaround, Songwriting process, Bad sounding records that are good, etc. [...]

Ep465: Michael Hampton (Parliament-Funkadelic)

Michael Hampton (Aka: Kidd Funkadelic) took over for Eddie Hazel as a very young man of 17, playing the iconic Maggot Brain. Costumes and “joining the circus”, minimalism in funk, composition and arrangement, the collaboration and cross pollination of the P-Funk extended universe, Eddie’s Four-bar solos, why “One Nation Under a Groove” still resonates, practice, mistakes and the ethos of funk. Bands and songs that sample Funkadelic and much more! Michael also has two new record records In the Public Domain, which is released under public-domain license, which grants artists, filmmakers and marketers everywhere royalty-free usage of the music and the brand new King Kong record! [...]

Ep464: Blag Dahlia (the Dwarves)

The Dwarves have a new record out called Jenkem, it's a hard, fest and mean one. Hearkening back to many of their now classic records. Such as Blood, Guts and Pussy, with the infamous album cover, Come Clean, and ...are Young and Good Looking. The evolution from the scrappy and tumultuous scum rock band with the bad boy reputation, to becoming purveyors of song craft and sustaining a career. How the Dwarves were cancelled before that was even a thing. The passion and connection of the Dwarves fans and the gold in the middle of the road. The influence of the Nuggets compilation and Decline of the Western Civilization. Blag also speaks about the books he has written (three so far), his old column in Zero Magazine, Blag's theories about spreading out attention with monoculture overcorrection, his thoughts on Nirvana the origin story and continuing Saga of Ralph Champagne. [...]

Ep463: Alexander Hacke & Danielle De Picciotto (hackedepicciotto)

The nomadic duo are back with a new record called Lichtung, and this one is all auf desutch! On limited-edition candy coloured vinyl, CD and digitally. What does lyric writing in German vs. English entail? Well, quite a lot actually. Lots with that, the perils and rewards of recording, the wonders of mixing and mastering. Alexander leaving Einstürzende Neubauten. Desolation Center... Gentrification and cost of living, the obstacles to coming back to the US. and what hackedepicciotto is up in the immediate future. It's been a few years since Danielle and Alexander have been on, but their unique vision continues to shine in all they do. [...]

Ep462: John Roman (Microwaves, Night Vapor, Brown Angel, Rated Eye)

The long running band Microwaves are back with another awesome record Temporal Shifter! It has been three years since drummer Roman was last on with his microwaves compatriots, so let's find out what has been going on with this long lived and fascinating prog punk band, shall we? A bit of Voivod influence and some of the character in this new record, which includes... Saxophone? Pre-production and other details, the story behind the art by Neil Burke of Men's Recovery Project fame. SON OF Central office (good callback), how microwaves songs are created and lots more. As well as Brown Angel being Adam's vehicle and why the songs stuck, a bit of a lament for Night Vapor (ZZ Tape and Yankee Rose cover inclusive) and some about Rated Eye talk too. [...]

Ep461: Kira Roessler (Black Flag, Dos, Solo)

It has been almost four years since Kira came on Protonic Reversal, before her FIRST solo record even. Now her second one Engima is coming out, a tribute to her fallen friend and collaborator, Co-produced with her brother Paul (Screamers) and featuring backing vocals from Petra Haden it features a minimalist bass approach. The Oscar and Emmy winning dialogue editor opines about Black Flag, creativity in the modern world and much more. We talk about that as well as using a headset mic and muscle memory, DOS with two basses (with Mike Watt) being the spirit of the punk rock ethos if not sound, holding it down while the other players in Black Flag went off, European crowds throwing beer cans at Flag because the music was slow and with long hair, the DIY model of touring that Black Flag (and Chuck Dukowksi specifically) started and honed. Check out Kira’s awesome new record and this lovely talk with a DIY and punk rock pioneer! [...]

Ep460: Gene Trautmann (Queens of the Stone Age, Desert Sessions, Dig, Alain Johannes Band)

Gene Trautmann played in Queens of the Stone Age, playing live and on the legendary Rated: R record as well as the Desert Sessions. But he is a mysterious figure amongst many fans. Yet he’s now resurfaced playing with the legendary Alain Johannes in Alain Johannes Band. Let’s find out why Gene stopped blaming his drums. Find out about his start with Miracle Workers and the Paisley Underground. What it was really like playing at Ozzfest with QOTSA, How Gene made Josh promise that he’d get to play on Go With the Flow. Monsters in the Parasol. How a chance meet up turned into touring with rock ‘n roll Mozart Alain Johannes ended up with Gene playing in the Alain Johannes Band. Advice for younger musicians and creators. The majesty of Mario Lalli. How dealing with Mark Lanegan required “prison rules” sometimes. Touring with Eagles of Death Metal. Oh yes, and an introduction to Sadie. [...]

Ep459: Mike Baggetta (mssv, Casa Sueño)

Mike Baggetta is back! We've talked in the past about the collaborations with Jim Keltner and Mike Watt, as well as the band mssv (main steam stop valve) with watt and Stephen Hodges, but what precisely is a Casa Sueño ? Well, how about an all new band with Watt, Baggetta and John Herndon of Tortoise and Isotype 217. Learn all about Casa Sueño, and their TRUE west coast tour (Mexico and Canada included) as well as the latest album from mssv See You through... making a record AFTER touring it, why Mike Baggetta has stopped explaining the meaning of songs, playing less and avoiding jam excess, why the new record has only one guitar solo, also why it is just out there without presaves, learning from older players, the the nature of connection with music and engagement and tons more. [...]

Ep458: Gregg Deal (Dead Pioneers)

Gregg Deal came to being a bandleader and punk rock singer late, coming up as a transgressive visual performance artist first originally from Utah and now living in Denver. Abjectly political and direct, Dead Pioneers have struck a chord and their newest one Wagon Burner, which fits very nicely into that new legacy with a new single featuring Jason Williamson of Sleaford Mods. It is pretty hard to be confused of the messaging with songs like Nazi Teeth. Following up PO$T AMERICAN and the spirited self/titled debut with the iconic song Bad Indian, social issues, political stances and the lived experience of being an indigenous descendent reclaiming a lost voice as well as a physical record collection. The raw energy is hard to beat and it has impressed many, including Pearl Jam who took them out on tour. [...]

Ep457: Bob Bert (Lydia Lunch Retrovirus, Sonic Youth, Pussy Galore, Chrome Cranks, Jon Spencer & the hitmakers)

Bob Bert is Back! With Beach Blanket Bloodbath, his first true solo album. A percussion heavy record featuring original compositions as well as reimagingings of notable guitar heavy compositions. Just without the guitar. We talk Bad Moon Rising and the enduring legacy of that specific Sonic Youth record. Just exactly what was up with Action Swingers and Ned Hayden. Vincent Gallo causing a ruckus in a diner, What made Lydia Lunch Retrovirus so special and cool. Jon Spencer & the Hitmakers and what happened with the end of that band. The great zine BBGun, Bewitched, filling in on drums for Live Skull, Chrome Cranks and why you probably won't be seeing Bob on tour anytime soon, but should DEFINITELY go to this insane record release show if you are available. Bob is always a great guest and a wonderful guy. Great to have him. [...]

Ep456: Neptune (Jason Sidney Sanford, Mark William Pearson, Daniel Paul Boucher)

Neptune have a new record and are back on tour! That's right the noise-rock/experimental pioneers with the handcrafted and welded "junk" instruments, feedback organs and other esoteria are out there with a new record called "Play Some Music" and are playing all across the lands once more. Who has been injured by said metal instruments and how? We speak about likeminded compatriots like Liars, Black Dice, Lightning Bolt, etc. hard touring in the 2000s and being paired with all of the strangest bands due to being unclassifiable. The logistics of operating as a band while now living in three different areas and the incredible story behind the artwork of Play Some Music by Sean Micka, details from Book Out Of Stock But Six Pictures, a cycle of paintings about the life of Mildred Fish Harnack (1902 - 1943). [...]

Ep455: Nathan Carson (Point Line Plane, Witch Mountain, Nanotear Booking, Two Ton Boa)

Point Line Plane is back! The early 2000s "synth punk" band that were contemporaries with so many luminaries are back in 2026 with a reissued first album by Skin Graft. Let's hear the story of the band's formation, the deep understanding of lore, as well as the beginnings of Witch Mountain. Witch Mountain, of course, was well ahead of the DOOM trend. Creative viability, pushing forward with sounds and returning to the music after a prolonged absence. Playing drums in Two Ton Boa, building bridges vs. burning bridges, sustainable living as an artist...all that and the origin story for one of the most enduring and respected band booking agencies around, Nanotear booking. Oh yeah, and did you know he's a published author too? Wow! [...]

Ep454: Andrew “Falco” Falkous (mclusky, christian fitness, future of the left)

The World is Still Here and So Are We was one of the best records of 2025. So it is time to reconnect on not just that, but the new mini album/ep, etc? I Sure Am Sick of This Bowling Alley. There is a mclusky song in the Peaky Blinders movie The Immortal Man. All about that and the premiere, as well as how People Person was a catalyst for Falco's tinnitus, and the cyclical nature of it would allow for a much longer arrangement. Hipster Adjacent Constituency, The "As A Dad" video (and the logic behind that title), working with Remy Lamont on the many mclusky videos and Aesthetic Apparatus with so many posters and artwork, speaking freely politically meaning professional ramifications for travel. Certain iconic records that almost objectively do not sound good, but still manage to be great. The essence of nostalgia and how to be more than a memory. The psychological effects of the COVID era, algorithms and what that could mean for the future. The nature and music of christian fitness. Falco has been on a time or two, but is always a good time.( Ep388, Ep371, Ep241, Ep157, Ep116, Ep100, Ep89, Ep63, Ep14, Ep04) [...]

Ep453: Duane Denison (Tomahawk, The Jesus Lizard, DK3)

Duane is back! This time to talk Tomahawk, and the upcoming tour on Tonic Mobility, which the band never has toured before. So listen is as we talk about picking the pool of songs, practicing songs that have never played live. Practice procedures, as you age. Bands growing and changing versus "giving the people what they want". How the playing of the players has changed over the years since the band started as well as some other heady topics. The deconstruction of professional performance of David Yow. Rock as a social event, tje nature of creativity, what makes a great live band, art vs. entertainment, influence, taste, overcoming the algorithm, Jim Kimball, the future of the Jesus Lizard and lots more... as well as the D2Archipeligo! [...]

Ep452: Drumcorpse (David Silver and Ian Prince)

A drum themed protest record with chants? Yeah, that sounds like a good record store day purchase. The fantastic drummer for Season to Risk, David Silver comes on Protonic to talk all about it an all-percussion album designed to energize and unify the defense of democracy, joined by Ian Prince (Houston, BirdHands). Featuring Matt Chamberlain, Blake Fleming, Kliph Spurlock, Greg Saunier and many more this is a unique and cool project, whose digital versions include EXTENDED versions to be played at nonviolent protests over a Loud speaker. We talk about that, all the recent activities in Minneapolis with ICE, as well as Ian Prince’s DIRECT ACTION WITH DRUMS, amongst many other hot button political items. Hear all about how the record on Skinsuit Communications, came together, how to make protests more effective, and more. [...]

Ep451: Tom Monaghan (1001 Album Complaints. The Chop)

Stay Puft is a Ghostbusters themed concept record by the music collective known as The Chop. These are the same guys responsible for The Beverly Crushers (a Star Trek The Next Generation themed concept band that Rob Kassees was on for), and Ghostbeef, a post-apocalyptic concept record about the fast food chain Arby’s. Tom doesn’t just play bass for these wild conceptual records, but he’s also part of the pantheon of the increasingly popular 1001 Album Complaints podcast. Where Classic albums’ from the 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die book are given full backstories told by musicians who love to mercilessly nitpick the details. Conan has been a guest on this great show before and will again. This is a deep dive into all things Ghostbusters and a detailed song by song breakdown of the record. Why not? The title of this very show was inspired by the movie! [...]

Ep450: Chris Spencer (Unsane, Human Impact, Cuthroats 9, Celan, UXO)

Six years have past since Chris Spencer was last on Protonic! At the time Human Impact was brand new. So let’s catch up. Starting with the reissue of Occupational Hazard on Lamb Unlimited. Remastered and including the AmRep demos. Unsane with Eric Cooper and Jon Syverson will be doing a lot of touring this year, along with an appearance at Roadburn! We speak about that as well the incredible story behind the release of the once lost, than found Improvised Munitions, and exactly where The Ernie Chicorelli disappeared to…the nature of the Telecaster and why it is the perfect guitar for Chris. The Body Bomb video (and MTV’s very succinct response), synergy with the sonic science of Jim Coleman with Human Impact. Human Impact writing something like 48 songs during the pandemic. Celan Recording in Berlin’s Neubauten studio in a wild two-week sprint. Cutthroats 9, Frank Kozik and Man’s ruin. All that and so very much more! [...]

Ep449: William Goldsmith (Sunny Day Real Estate, Assertion,The Fire Theft, Foo Fighters)

4 years and a month ago (what? Really?), William Goldsmith was on to talk about Sunny Real Estate, Fire Theft, Foo Fighers and Assertion. Now Assertion has a new record that snuck into Conan’s top records of 2025 “Basking in the Gaslight“. In additon to that Sunny Day Real Estate has been back and playing shows ! The “Down in the Park” sessions with the Foo Fighters (as well as some great talk about Gary Numan).. the recording of Diary and history of that as well as revisiting. Which albums William can listen to and which he can’t… and that there are 3 2″ tapes of 90s Sunny Day Real Estate waiting to get listened to. Wow! All this plus SDRE and Fire Theft history. William’s powerful friendship with Scott Jernigan of KARP, including a two drummer project! and lots, lots more. It’s been a long time, let’s catch up. [...]

Ep448: Pall Jenkins (Black Heart Procession, Three Mile Pilot)

Black Heart is back, and playing shows in 2025. What wonderful news. Pall knows knives! Acidwrx balisong knives (aka: butterfly knives). Probably more knife talk than has ever happened on this show. The history of Three Mile Pilot, a history of Black Heart Procession. working with Issac Brock on Ugly Casanova (and Modest Mouse in general), making a video for every song BEFORE the youtube age, Corey Rusk calling about being on Touch and Go and getting the message from his mom, the act of creation, being a quiet person and a frontman, and the Ice Cream Floats upcoming cruise. It's been 5 1/2 years since Pall's Black heart bandmate Toby was on, so let's dig in. [...]

Ep447: Top Records of 2025

1. B. Hamilton – B. Hamilton – Good Foot (ep429) 2. Lung – The Swankeeper – The Money 3. Gaytheist – The Mustache Stays – Break Me In (ep425) 4. mclusky – the world is still here and so are we – way of the exploding dickhead 5. PLOSIVS – YELL AT CLOUD – Falls Equivalency 6. HLLLYH – URUBURU – Black Rainbows (ep434) 7. Buñuel – Mansuetude – Drug Burn (ep401) 8. Deaf Club – We Demand A Permanent State of Happiness – Nihilism For Dummies (Ep432, Ep442) 9. Vile Bees – Joy Coughs – Anime Bodies 10. Chat Pile and Hayden Pedigo – In the Earth Again – Demon Time 11. We Contain Multitudes – Minako – D9 (ep431) 12. Jolie Laide – Creatures – Something for the Thrill (ep424) 13. Resurrectionists – Any Time You Make a Place for Them – Hey Man 14. Cheer-Accident – Admission – Cold Comfort (ep430) 15. FACS – Wish Defense – Wish Defense (ep417) 16. Heet Deth – Bad Reading – King of Swords 17. Cosmic Kitten – Cosmic Kitten – Hole In My Soul 18. The Austerity Program – Bible Songs 2 – Lamentations 4:7-11 (Ep423) 19. Sloan – Based on the Best Seller – Dream Destroyer 20. Swami John Reis – Time to Let You Down – Fed to the Dogs 21. Shiner – BELIEVEYOUME – Asleep In the Trunk 22. Tropical Fuck Storm – Fairyland Codex – Dunning Kruger’s Loser Cruiser 23. Melvins – Thunderball – Victory of the Pyramids 24. Lightning Swells Forever – Delirium – Daze 25. Assertion – Basking in the Gaslight – Please Wake Up [...]

Ep446: Tim Soete (The Fucking Champs)

The evolution of the Champs, including the Santa Cruz days and move to SF and Tim Green joining. Playing metal in an environment that didn't always support that. changing the name to C4AM95 for their "third record" and why that may have not been the smartest idea. Listing gear in the record jacket, Drag City, Changing to The Fucking Champs (based on a t-shirt), IV and Extra Man. Collaborations and tours with Trans Am, Josh leaving and Phil Manley tagging in. Side projects and how the Champs kind of petered out. Tim also has a synth based electronic record out called Orange Magnet on bandcamp. and why a Fucking Champs reunion is pretty unlikely. [...]

Ep445: J.D. Pinkus (Butthole Surfers, Melvins, Honky, Daddy Longhead, Jackofficers, Areola 51, Solo)

It has been SEVEN YEARS since the mighty J.D Pinkus has been on Protonic Reversal. The Butthole Surfers documentary, recording with John Paul Jones (and getting him to swear off alcohol!), lack of credits in the BHS world and dipping out before the "big hit", high tech rednecks putting together the insane visuals in a pre-photoshop era. Playing with Helios Creed, singing in your proper range, space banjo, Double Live and the story of Kathleen the Sh*t lady, Tall Tall Trees and Ponder Machine, Grow a Pear, Union Synthesizers, Fungus Shui (and it being a TRUE solo record, sans dogs), Kramer. Songs v. Sound. Versions of songs and how they live after being written. Jackofficers and "Hick-hop", Hurdy Gurdy Man, word of mouth v. Internet, is P S Y the BHS version of Dark Star? Live at Leather Fly, The BHS book by James Burns. Breakaway bottles, Upcoming tour with Clutch and COC and SO MUCH MORE. [...]

Ep444: Steven McDonald (Redd Kross, Melvins, OFF!)

Steven is back, after a 5 YEAR (!) break. Redd Kross has been very busy! Including releasing their latest (and best?) album The Redd album. Upcoming shows with the Hard Ons and Little Steven's Underground Garage CRUISE. The critic inside your head, staying present... the formation and career of OFF!, taking a 10 year break from touring... joining Melvins and adjusting to being a utility player and serving the music, as well as bringing the BIG ROCK! Dynamics with Jeff McDonald, vs. others, a 45 year spanning band! KISS, Neurotica, Sparks talk (like: playing in their live band!). The Redd Kross documentary featuring the SONG Born Innocent. and Spirit of '76. Hey, he's a busy guy, let's dive in. [...]

Ep443: Rey Washam (Scratch Acid, Rapeman, Didjits, Ministry, Tad)

The legendary drummer returns! A long time coming, This is Rey’s return to Protonic Reversal all the way from Episode 27! The Scratch Acid Box Set, and legacy. The “R” band and reactions to that band’s name and the future of that music on streaming. Playing with Ministry, Big Boys. Didjits and Phantom Planet (!). … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep443-rey-washam-scratch-acid-rapeman-didjits-ministry-tad/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep443: Rey Washam (Scratch Acid, Rapeman, Didjits, Ministry, Tad)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep442: Justin Pearson (Deaf Club, the Locust, Dead Cross, Retox, Cult and Culture, Swing Kids, 31G)

It has been over 4 years since JP has been on protonic! And in that time Deaf Club has only thrived they have a new record We Demand A Permanent State of Happiness AND he’s launched his own podcast called Cult and Culture. What else? Well, a lot actually. Lots of podcast talk, as well … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep442-justin-pearson-deaf-club-the-locust-dead-cross-retox-cult-and-culture-swing-kids-31g/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep442: Justin Pearson (Deaf Club, the Locust, Dead Cross, Retox, Cult and Culture, Swing Kids, 31G)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep441: Andrew Dalton (Nuzzle)

Nuzzle was a high energy indie rock band from Santa Cruz, adjacent to the Gravity Records and K/Kill Rock Stars west coast scenes of the 90s. Follow For Now, their 1995 record has been reissued by Solid Brass Records a remix and remaster! We get into the history of Nuzzle, Yo-Yo A Go-Go, Junk of … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep441-andrew-dalton-nuzzle/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep441: Andrew Dalton (Nuzzle)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep440: Steve Tulipana (Season to Risk, Violenteer, Record Bar)

Season to Risk is a legendary band, formed in 1989. They predated the indie gold rush, put out two records on Columbia, toured hard with a “who’s who” of 90s rock, Built their own studio (destroyed by a flash flood) and continued on making interesting and unique records. In 2025 they released 1-800-Meltdown, a collection … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep440-steve-tulipana-season-to-risk-violenteer-record-bar/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep440: Steve Tulipana (Season to Risk, Violenteer, Record Bar)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep439: Tim Midyett (Silkworm)

The year is 2025 an the band Silkworm is BACK! This line-up includes early member Joel RL Phelps, who wrote and played on the first three records, but is not as known to people who knew SKWM as a three piece. After the tragic death of drummer Michael Dahlquist in 2005 Silkworm as a band … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep439-tim-midyett-silkworm/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep439: Tim Midyett (Silkworm)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep438: Daniel House (Skin Yard, CZ Records, The Creative Asylum)

The Creative Asylum is Daniel House’s brand new podcast, a 1:1 interview show exploring the minds & imaginations of people living authentic, creative lives. He may be new to podcasting, but Daniel House has the CV. You may recognize him from his old band Skin Yard with Jack Endino that slightly predate that whole 1990s … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep438-daniel-house-skin-yard-cz-records-the-creative-asylum/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep438: Daniel House (Skin Yard, CZ Records, The Creative Asylum)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep437: Tom Flynn (Star Pimp, Fang, Antler Family, Boner Records)

The legendary Tom Flynn has a new 7″ out DO THE THUD, Dale Crover plays drums on it and the singer for Star Pimp does some vocals. Awesome! We talk about how weirdly timeless The Money Will Roll In by Fang has become, covered by so many famous bands. The foundation of Boner records and … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep437-tom-flynn-star-pimp-fang-antler-family-boner-records/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep437: Tom Flynn (Star Pimp, Fang, Antler Family, Boner Records)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep436: Shawn “Defenestrator” O’Connor (Yowie)

Yowie has been around for a long time. How long? Well their 4th record just came out Taking Umbrage, but they started when Bill Clinton was President. Every Yowie release has had a member leave the band and this one is no different. Defenestrator is now the only original member, and this was recorded without … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep436-shawn-defenestrator-oconnor-yowie/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep436: Shawn “Defenestrator” O’Connor (Yowie)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep435: Blake Fleming (Dazzling Killmen, Laddio Bolocko, The Mars Volta)

Dazzling Killmen are back in 2025. What an incredible thing to have the band that released the mighty and influential Face of Collapse playing live shows once again. This episode has a focus on their enigmatic, intense and powerful drummer, who started drums young playing in drum line, and had a whole post DK career … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep435-blake-fleming-dazzling-killmen-laddio-bolocko-the-mars-volta-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep435: Blake Fleming (Dazzling Killmen, Laddio Bolocko, The Mars Volta)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep434: Tim Byron (HLLLYH, The Mae Shi)

There’s a new band they are called HLLLYH and they have a record called Uruburu. But it also the Mae Shi. Kind of… wait, what? Song by song breakdown of this wonderful record as well as the origin story of this new band, how the record came to pass and another look at the very … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep434-tim-byron-hlllyh-the-mae-shi/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep434: Tim Byron (HLLLYH, The Mae Shi)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep433: Nina Nastasia (Solo, Jolie Laide)

Nina is back! And with a new record only available on bandcamp. Songs for a World of Trouble isn’t just an awesome record, you can’t get it on the other streamers. However, you CAN purchase it direct from the artist. Dedicated to the late, great Steve Albini it is a grand experiment and a worthy … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep433-nina-nastasia-solo-jolie-laide/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep433: Nina Nastasia (Solo, Jolie Laide)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep432: Brian Amalfitano (Deaf Club)

The mighty DEAF CLUB have a new record called We Demand A Permanent State of Happiness. This excellent band also features former guest of the show Justin Pearson on vocals. This is their best record yet, and we get into all of that as well as Brian’s approach to guitar, music, and songwriting. Nirvana, covers, … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep432-brian-amalfitano-deaf-club/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep432: Brian Amalfitano (Deaf Club)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep431: Jon Fine (We Contain Multitudes, Bitch Magnet, Vineland, Coptic Light)

We Contain Multitudes is Jon Fine’s new band with Orestes from Bitch Magnet, and it is a corker. Their debut record is called Minako, and it is out now on Expert Work records. A must for fans of Explosions in the Sky, Fucking Champs, Russian Circles, Side 2 of My War, King Crimson, fugazi and … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep431-jon-fine-we-contain-multitudes-bitch-magnet-vineland-coptic-light/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep431: Jon Fine (We Contain Multitudes, Bitch Magnet, Vineland, Coptic Light)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep430: Jeff Libersher and Thymme Jones (Cheer-Accident)

The incredible and very long-lived Cheer-Accident have a new record called Admission and some are saying it is their best one yet! Out of… 26? The three decade old band are embarking on a tour of the US and while Thymme is a returning guest, Jeff has never been on the show. Let’s get into … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep430-jeff-libersher-and-thymme-jones-cheer-accident/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep430: Jeff Libersher and Thymme Jones (Cheer-Accident)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep429: Ryan Christopher Parks (B. Hamilton)

The new B. Hamilton record is one of Conan’s favorites of the year. What a pleasure it is to have the wonderful Ryan Christopher Parks back again to talk all about it. Deep dives into songwriting, Raj’s process as well as this one bringing a Warp Records (!) feel to some of those rock ‘n … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep429-ryan-christopher-parks-b-hamilton-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep429: Ryan Christopher Parks (B. Hamilton)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep428: Ralph Cuseglio (Rye Coalition)

Well alright! 4 years after his bandmate Dave Leto‘s appearance. Protonic Reversal listener (!) Ralph Cuseglio, the voice of Rye Coalition comes on the show to talk PAID IN FULL. A new double A-side 7″ and digital single paying tribute to Steve Albini and Rick Froberg with a cover of Shellac – Wingwalker and Drive … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep428-ralph-cuseglio-rye-coalition-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep428: Ralph Cuseglio (Rye Coalition)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep427: Al Johnson (U.S. Maple, Shorty)

stream/dl The legendary front man and singer of US Maple FINALLY comes on Protonic. Long Hair in Three Stages has an incredible reissue available for purchase. We talk about all that, as well as the Vietnam theater of Sang Phat Editor, Talker, Acre Thrills, and lots more. Shorty talk (including which 7 inch records are … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep427-al-johnson-u-s-maple-shorty-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep427: Al Johnson (U.S. Maple, Shorty)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep426: David J. (Bauhaus, Love and Rockets)

stream/dl The enigmatic David J is back with a poetry/spoken word record called the Mother Tree and an accompanying poetry book called Rhapsody, Threnody & Prayer. The origin of that record is discussed, as well as many other things. Writing the lyrics for Bela Lugosi’s Dead by Bauhaus on labels, meeting David Bowie on the set of … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep426-david-j-bauhaus-love-and-rockets/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep426: David J. (Bauhaus, Love and Rockets)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep425: Jason Rivera (Gaytheist)

Fresh off of opening for the Jesus Lizard (no, really, the night before!), Jason comes on to talk all things The Mustache Stays. Their sixth (!) full length, that Conan thinks may be their best so far. Split/Collab with Rabbits, Split with Baby Gurl, the surprising legs of the Live from the Banana Stand release, … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep425-jason-rivera-gaytheist/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep425: Jason Rivera (Gaytheist)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep424: Nina Nastasia (Jolie Laide, Solo)

Nina Nastasia is back! And so is Jolie Laide, with a new lush and sprawling record Creatures. the second collaboration between Nina, Jeff MacLeod, Clinton St. John and Morgan Greenwood. This one is a great deep dive into working collaboratively after being a solo artist for many years. John Peel, Steve Albini, being present, and … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep424-nina-nastasia-jolie-laide-solo/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep424: Nina Nastasia (Jolie Laide, Solo)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep423: Justin Foley (the Austerity Program)

Bible Songs 2 is out! The iconic paragons of uncompromising heavy and intense noisy music are back. With a second album of the darkest most vengeful and just plain messed up stories from that one book. Still guitar, bass, vocals and drum machine. It has been over 5 years, and nearly 300 episodes since Justin … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep423-justin-foley-the-austerity-program/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep423: Justin Foley (the Austerity Program)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep422: Bryan Giles (Red Fang, Party Time, Last of the Juanitas)

DEEP CUTS, is the new b-sides, rarities and oddities record from the new 20 year old band RED FANG. We talk about that, and how that usually is not Bryan’s favorite kind of release. Some tidbits of the included songs. Early days with Last of the Juanitas (A Conan favorite), The band Party Time. Arrows, Letterman, meeting … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep422-bryan-giles-red-fang-party-time-last-of-the-juanitas-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep422: Bryan Giles (Red Fang, Party Time, Last of the Juanitas)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep421: Rob Kassees (The Beverly Crushers, 1001 Album Complaints)

Rob is back! And his Star Trek: The Next Generation themed band the Beverly Crushers has a brand new record called Enterprise. It is a deep dive into writing prompt vs. concept record, the vitality and importance of ST: tNG as monoculture influence to hourly procedurals, mainstreaming of sci-fi, and a precursor to serialized prestige … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep421-rob-kassees-the-beverly-crushers-1001-album-complaints/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep421: Rob Kassees (The Beverly Crushers, 1001 Album Complaints)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep420: Big’n (Bill Akins, Todd Johnson, Brian Wnukoswki, Fred Popolo)

The mighty men of Big’n! At last. End Comes Too Soon is the new record and it rips. A song by song with all of that, as well as brief forays unto Ground Rule Double, Discipline, Knife of Sin, Oxes split and so much more. It is a rare glimpse into the Chicago legends history, including … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep420-bign-bill-akins-todd-johnson-brian-wnukoswki-fred-popolo/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep420: Big’n (Bill Akins, Todd Johnson, Brian Wnukoswki, Fred Popolo)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep419: Mike Baggetta (mssv)

Mike Baggetta is back! His band mssv with MikeWatt and Stephen Hodges have a brand new record called On and On. It is very good and they road tested the song in a unique way, playing them out on the tour for the previous record. We hear all about that, as well as how Mike keeps track … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep419-mike-baggetta-mssv/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep419: Mike Baggetta (mssv)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep418: Mike Hard (God Bullies, Thrall, Pig Harvest)

As Above So Below is the latest God Bullies record, recorded in honor of departed God Bullies guitarist David Livingstone and Johnnie Johnston at Electrical Audio. The reformed God Bullies are playing shows everywhere. Mike Hard clears the air about who owes the name, the intent with the band being called what it is and gives … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep418-mike-hard-god-bullies-thrall-pig-harvest/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep418: Mike Hard (God Bullies, Thrall, Pig Harvest)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep417: Brian Case (FACS, Disappears, 90 Day Men)

FACS are back with a brand new record called Wish Defense. The last record Steve Albini (RIP) recorded, later finished by Sanford Parker and mixed by John Congleton. It’s a little more austere and spare, but definitely FACS. It also features Johnathan Van Herik rejoining… who was in the original band. We do a song … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep417-brian-case-facs-disappears-90-day-men/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep417: Brian Case (FACS, Disappears, 90 Day Men)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep416: Russell White and Michelle Gasparovic (The Camera Obscura)

This is an episode with two of the folks from the 1998 post-punk shoegazy band from San Diego! To Change the Shape of an Envelope is a well regarded record and Solid Brass has given it a wonderful 25 year anniversary release complete with new artwork by Sonny Kay. So how better to celebrate than to speak to … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep416-russell-white-and-michelle-gasparovic-the-camera-obscura/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep416: Russell White and Michelle Gasparovic (The Camera Obscura)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep415: Jim Kimball (Ghost Forest, Laughing Hyenas, DK3, Mule, Jesus Lizard)

That’s right! It’s the fantastic post-punk, punk rock, rock drummer who has played in MULTIPLE legendary bands. His newest band is the massively underrated Ghost Forest, who have a new-ish record. But you may know him from the amazing Laughing Hyenas, Mule, Denison-Kimball Trio and (for awhile.) The Jesus Lizard. Let’s hear about all those … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep415-jim-kimball-ghost-forest-laughing-hyenas-dk3-mule-jesus-lizard-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep415: Jim Kimball (Ghost Forest, Laughing Hyenas, DK3, Mule, Jesus Lizard)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep413: Erik Denno and Darren Zentek (Kerosene 454)

The legendary Maryland/DC band has a reissue of their classic record Came by to Kill Me on Solid Brass. The first record to be written exclusively with Darren, who would later play in Office of Future Plans, Channels, Continuals and J. Robbins Band as well. A powerful live band that practiced 5 or 6 times a … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep413-erik-denno-and-darren-zentek-kerosene-454-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep413: Erik Denno and Darren Zentek (Kerosene 454)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep412: Jamie Stillman (Harriet the Spy, Earthquaker Devices, the Party of Helicopters)

Harriet the Spy has a wonderful reissue of Unfuckwithable, through Solid Brass. Jamie played the drums in that band, but is better known to most as the Impressario behind Earthquaker Devices. As well as the Party of Helicopters, Relaxer, etc. There is much talk of touring, revisiting older material, Ohio, rocking while aging, and all … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep412-jamie-stillman-harriet-the-spy-earthquaker-devices-the-party-of-helicopters/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep412: Jamie Stillman (Harriet the Spy, Earthquaker Devices, the Party of Helicopters)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep414: Top Records of 2024

Here it is! My favorite records of 2024, in the glorious podcast *AND* playlist form. stream/DL [...]

Ep411: Brant Bjork (Kyuss, Brant Bjork Trio, Fu Manchu, Stöner)

That’s right, the desert rock legend himself has a new record with Brant Bjork Trio – Once Upon a Time in the Desert. In an all star band featuring Ryan Gut and Mario Lalli! So how about a floor up discussion, all the way from getting into punk rock, pots and pans, into present day. With … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep411-brant-bjork-kyuss-brant-bjork-trio-fu-manchu-stoner-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep411: Brant Bjork (Kyuss, Brant Bjork Trio, Fu Manchu, Stöner)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep410: Alexander Hacke & Danielle De Picciotto (hackedepicciotto)

It has been a long time since the Berlin based experimental duo has been on protonic reversal. There’s a BEST OF the band (live in Napoli!), which also serves as a great introduction as well as other newish records. The whiplash of touring with Alexander’s band Einstürzende Neubauten and then immediately doing hackedepicciotto. Soundtracks, At the … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep410-alexander-hacke-danielle-de-picciotto-hackedepicciotto/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep410: Alexander Hacke & Danielle De Picciotto (hackedepicciotto)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep409: Travis Keller and Joe Cardamone (Buddyhead, Icarus Line, Buddyhead Movie)

Both Travis and Joe have been on the show a lot over the years. But this time they are raising funds for a Buddyhead documentary. A necessary salve for the lack of any kind of documentation for the entire mid-2000s world for one of the most irreverent websites to ever exist. Talk about that, scene documentation in general, movies that get … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep409-travis-keller-and-joe-cardamone-buddyhead-icarus-line-buddyhead-movie/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep409: Travis Keller and Joe Cardamone (Buddyhead, Icarus Line, Buddyhead Movie)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep408: Michael Crain (Dead Cross, CNTS, Retox)

The guitarist for the fabulous band CNTS, with Matt Cronk, as well as Dead Cross with (Dave Lombardo and Mike Patton), finally comes on Protonic Reversal to talk about all things Retox, Rehab, Rock and Riff. Beating Cancer, outlasting COVID and getting one of the greatest singers and front men in rock to sing in your … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep408-michael-crain-dead-cross-cnts-retox-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep408: Michael Crain (Dead Cross, CNTS, Retox)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep407: Steve Moriarty (The Gits, Mia Zapata and The Gits: A Story of Art, Rock, and Revolution book)

Steve Moriarty wasn’t just the drummer of the legendary band The Gits. He literally wrote the book on his bandmate and friend Mia Zapata. Whose life was cruelly cut short. A vital and impressive vocalist and artist on the verge of international rock stardom, the book tells Mia’s story, shows the progress of her undeniable talent … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep407-steve-moriarty-the-gits-mia-zapata-and-the-gits-a-story-of-art-rock-and-revolution-book-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep407: Steve Moriarty (The Gits, Mia Zapata and The Gits: A Story of Art, Rock, and Revolution book)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep406: Ed Fraser and Rosa Mercedes (Kino Motel)

Ed has been on Protonic Reversal with his old band Heads., but that was 4 years ago and this is Kino Motel! Different band, different genre. And now with Rosa! We got through a detailed breakdown for their new record Visions.  Talk about Sea Shanties (!) and both musicians adjusting their playing style to make something new … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep406-ed-fraser-and-rosa-mercedes-kino-motel/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep406: Ed Fraser and Rosa Mercedes (Kino Motel)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep405: Ashley Tubb and Jake Healy (Sugar Horse)

Bristol based Sugar Horse are purveyors of interesting heavy music, but it isn’t exactly metal. They have a new one called The Grand Scheme of Things. Truth and Consequences, The live long after and the LIVE long after, thrash music and cassettes and the “live, laugh, love” of skeleton artwork. We do a song by … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep405-ashley-tubb-and-jake-healy-sugar-horse/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep405: Ashley Tubb and Jake Healy (Sugar Horse)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep404: Carl Shane (Kal Marks)

It’s been a year and a half and over 100 episodes since Carl’s last appearance for My Name Is Hell. Now it’s a new record! Wasteland Baby. We talk a lot about legacy bands and artists taking risks, what records are palette cleansers. The relative unsustainable nature of being an artist in a big city. … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep404-carl-shane-kal-marks-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep404: Carl Shane (Kal Marks)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep403: Freddy Vinehill-Cliffe (Thank)

THANK is a band from Leeds, UK! We speak about decorum for wedding bands, how long opening bands should, or should not play, writing records collaboratively as opposed to during a pandemic, the compilation / introduction of Thankology, the cruel irony of not nailing a song called Do It Badly in the studio at first. A … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep403-freddy-vinehill-cliffe-thank-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep403: Freddy Vinehill-Cliffe (Thank)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep402: Raygun Busch and Stin (Chat Pile)

oh hey, half of the mighty chat pile returns to Protonic Reversal to talk about COOL WORLD. Their highly anticipated new record (yes, named after that pervy Bakshi movie!). As well as the nature of live performance, the bands’ incredible arc since their last appearance, following their own compass, using the performance platform to represent … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep402-raygun-busch-and-stin-chat-pile/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep402: Raygun Busch and Stin (Chat Pile)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep401: Eugene Robinson, Franz Valente (Buñuel)

The band Bunuel has an awesome new album Mansuetude, but they are NOT a new band. It is their fourth! Which American audiences may not be aware of. American audiences are usually only aware of their singer. The wonderful Eugene Robinson (most famously of Oxbow). We talk all about Buñuel, future touring and the deep … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep401-eugene-robinson-franz-valente-bunuel/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep401: Eugene Robinson, Franz Valente (Buñuel)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep400: Conan Neutron (Conan Neutron and the Secret Friends, Protonic Reversal, Replicator, Mount Vicious, Victory and Associates, Household Gods)

stream/dlSUBSCRIBE or listen on Apple Podcasts (free).SUBSCRIBE on something else (FREE) xml feedListen (and follow) on SpotifyListen on Pandora The tables are turned on Conan Neutron in this: the 400th episode of Protonic Reversal! Randy Randall of the band No Age and the podcast Hyphenate with Randy Randall interviews CONAN all about the show, podcasting … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/4213-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep400: Conan Neutron (Conan Neutron and the Secret Friends, Protonic Reversal, Replicator, Mount Vicious, Victory and Associates, Household Gods)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep399: Bob Bert (Sonic Youth, Pussy Galore, Chrome Cranks, Jon Spencer and the Hitmakers, Lydia Lunch Retrovirus)

BBGun, the zine. The endless allure of Bad Moon Rising by Sonic Youth, Pussy Galore and the not so hi-fi recording of Exile in Main Street. Jon Spencer, Hit-makers and otherwise. Lydia Lunch Retrovirus origin story. Wolfmanhattan Project, and working with Mick Collins and Kid Congo Powers, the Chrome Cranks! Bewitched! and so very much … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep399-bob-bert-sonic-youth-pussy-galore-chrome-cranks-jon-spencer-and-the-hitmakers-lydia-lunch-retrovirus/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep399: Bob Bert (Sonic Youth, Pussy Galore, Chrome Cranks, Jon Spencer and the Hitmakers, Lydia Lunch Retrovirus)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep398: Duane Denison (The Jesus Lizard, Tomahawk, DK3)

RACK is the new album by the Jesus Lizard. A real treat for us all, it sounds like what you hope it would sound like as well as pushing a bit forward as well. Also, the Jesus Lizard is playing! A lot. A lot of touring even. We speak about that, as well as guitar technique, … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep398-duane-denison-the-jesus-lizard-tomahawk-dk3/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep398: Duane Denison (The Jesus Lizard, Tomahawk, DK3)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep397: Dale Crover (Melvins, Redd Kross, DCB, NeutronFriends)

Dale Crover! One of rock’s greatest drummers (Conan would know!), also is a great guitarist and songwriter and the Dale Crover Band has a new one called Glossolalia. We do a thorough track-by-track analysis of that excellent record, as well as talk about Tarantula Heart by Melvins, playing with Redd Kross on their recent tour … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep397-dale-crover-melvins-redd-kross-dcb-neutronfriends/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep397: Dale Crover (Melvins, Redd Kross, DCB, NeutronFriends)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep396: Alain Johannes (Eleven, Queens of the Stone Age, Desert Sessions, PJ Harvey, Solo)

Alain Johannes is back, for a full episode. Which is crazy, as it has been four years since the last one. He’s just completed a bunch of touring with bands he recorded acting as his backing band all all around the world. So how has recording music changed for Alain over the years? Let’s find … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep396-alain-johannes-eleven-queens-of-the-stone-age-desert-sessions-pj-harvey-solo-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep396: Alain Johannes (Eleven, Queens of the Stone Age, Desert Sessions, PJ Harvey, Solo)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep395: Upright Forms (Nick Sakes, Noah Paster, Shaun Westphal)

Upright Forms are a great band from Minneapolis, with a great new record called Blurred Wires. Nick has been on before a couple years back, but this is the first Upright Forms full length, Let’s hear all about the band’s origin story, why the “notes app” is so important. What is and isn’t secret prog and lots … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep395-upright-forms-nick-sakes-noah-paster-shaun-westphal/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep395: Upright Forms (Nick Sakes, Noah Paster, Shaun Westphal)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep394: Chris Haskett (Rollins Band, Foetus, The Joy Thieves, Cassandra Complex, Even/Odd, solo)

A great conversation going from the early days of DC Punk Rock, to right now. The gestation of Rollins Band, starting with Hot Animal Machine and all the way to Come In and Burn. Low Self-Opinion and the unlikely single of Liar. Solo records and working in the modern environment as a musician. The story … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep394-chris-haskett-rollins-band-foetus-the-joy-thieves-cassandra-complex-even-odd-solo/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep394: Chris Haskett (Rollins Band, Foetus, The Joy Thieves, Cassandra Complex, Even/Odd, solo)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep393: Spencer Hazard (Full of Hell, Eye Flys, Reaper’s Gong)

Full of Hell has been releasing high quality and uncompromising heavy music for almost 15 years and there is a new one called Coagulated Bliss! We talk about that, as well as Spencer’s decision to step back from touring, even as Full of Hell continues to work on the road with a new live member. … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep393-spencer-hazard-full-of-hell-eye-flys-reapers-gong/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep393: Spencer Hazard (Full of Hell, Eye Flys, Reaper’s Gong)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep392: Steve Bartek (Oingo Boingo, Baring All, Composer, Conductor)

Steve has a new record with Ira Ingber Baring All – There Goes My Compass. Ira is an accomplished player as well, having played with Bob Dylan, the Mothers of Invention and Captain Beefheart amongst others. He also played that awesome slide guitar on the Midnight Run soundtrack. We speak of that as well as … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep392-steve-bartek-oingo-boingo-baring-all-composer-conductor/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep392: Steve Bartek (Oingo Boingo, Baring All, Composer, Conductor)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep391: John Mohr, Michael Greenlees, Tim Midyett (Deep Tunnel Project)

Deep Tunnel Project is a chicago band! Featuring, two members of Tar, one from Silkworm and one from The Bomb it is a unique pairing creating new music and new sounds. 3/4 of them, all returning guests respectively, come on Protonic to talk in-depth about this great new record, the mindset and origin of the … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep391-john-mohr-michael-greenlees-tim-midyett-deep-tunnel-project/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep391: John Mohr, Michael Greenlees, Tim Midyett (Deep Tunnel Project)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep390: Kip Uhlhorn and Matt Hall (The Red Scare)

The Red Scare is back! No, not the podcast, the legendary late 90s/early 00s’ Knoxville hardcore band. Kip (Panthers, Cloudland Canyon) and Matt (New Brutalism, Manhandle, Obstructures) join Conan to talk all about the new retrospective/reissue Smoky Mountain High. A track by track breakdown, as well as a hilarious recounting of touring, songwriting, relearning songs from … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep390-kip-uhlhorn-and-matt-hall-the-red-scare/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep390: Kip Uhlhorn and Matt Hall (The Red Scare)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep389: Jake Smith (Eye Flys, Backslider)

Protonic is back! First show since the 10 year anniversary episode. Let’s go! This episode is Jake Smith of heavy band Eye Flys, who have a great new heavy rock record. (self-titled!) It’s a song by song of that record, as well as hearing about how they ended up on Thrill Jockey… the THRILL of … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep389-jake-smith-eye-flys-backslider/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep389: Jake Smith (Eye Flys, Backslider)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep388: 10th Anniversary Spectacular (Duane Denison, Coady Willis, Marnie Stern, Steve Albini, Falco, Bob Bert, David Pajo, Alain Johannes, John Schmersal, Mike Morasky, Dale Crover, Jennifer Precious Finch, Ian MacKaye)

13 (!) new interviews, about 10 minutes each to celebrate the 10 year anniversary of the podcast. Wow! 1. Duane Denison (The Jesus Lizard, Tomahawk, DK3) (Ep158, Ep94) 2. Coady Willis – (High on Fire, Melvins, Big Business, Murder City Devils) (Ep132) 3. Marnie Stern – (Ep361) 4. Steve Albini – (Shellac, Big Black, Electrical Audio Studio) … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep388-10th-anniversary-spectacular-duane-denison-coady-willis-marnie-stern-steve-albini-falco-bob-bert-david-pajo-alain-johannes-john-schmersal-mike-morasky-dale-crover-jennifer-precious-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep388: 10th Anniversary Spectacular (Duane Denison, Coady Willis, Marnie Stern, Steve Albini, Falco, Bob Bert, David Pajo, Alain Johannes, John Schmersal, Mike Morasky, Dale Crover, Jennifer Precious Finch, Ian MacKaye)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep387: Doni Blair (The Toadies, Hagfish, Only Crime, Author)

Doni Blair is best known as bassplayer for 90s legends The Toadies, but just like his brother Zach. Conan knows him from his old band Hagfish! We talk all about the Hagfish days, and van touring, as well as the glory and the allure of the Rickenbacker bass., a father who was a rock DJ, … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep387-doni-blair-the-toadies-hagfish-only-crime-author-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep387: Doni Blair (The Toadies, Hagfish, Only Crime, Author)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep386: Danbert Nobacon (Chumbawama, Solo, Axis of Dissent)

Danbert is a anarcho-punk icon that cofounded Anarchist collective punk group Chumbawamba in 1982, yes that’s right the one with the “I get knocked down, but I get up again” song. All about the origin and the journey of “the song” that changed the band’s world for quite some time. Split release with Noam Chomsky, … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep386-danbert-nobacon-chumbawama-solo-axis-of-dissent/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep386: Danbert Nobacon (Chumbawama, Solo, Axis of Dissent)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep385: Roger C. Miller (Mission of Burma, Anvil Orchestra, Composer)

The legendary guitarist for Mission of Burma arrives to talk about dream interpretations for solo guitar, silent film accompaniment, Vs., reunions, how the world caught up to Mission of Burma, Alloy Orchestra/The Anvil Orchestra (scoring Dr. Caligari at MFF soon!), Moving Parts, working on soundtracks, tapes, drones, Maximum Electric Piano, conceptual art like Transmuting the Prosaic, chamber … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep385-roger-c-miller-mission-of-burma-anvil-orchestra-composer/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep385: Roger C. Miller (Mission of Burma, Anvil Orchestra, Composer)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep384: Rick Sims (Didjits, Gaza Strippers)

293 episodes since Rick Sims last protoniced, did they even have podcasts then? Was it on wax cylinders? Probably. Anyway! Strictly Dynamite is the new Best of and Rarities Didjits collection. It’s got all of the best stuff, but also has some stuff that even the true heads don’t have. We get into the confrontation … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep384-rick-sims-didjits-gaza-strippers/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep384: Rick Sims (Didjits, Gaza Strippers)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep383: Ryan Patterson (Fotocrime, Coliseum)

Long time coming! Ryan Patterson has a great new Fotocrime record called Accelerated. And there’s also a TWO OFF Coliseum reunion/celebration coming up shortly! We dive into all the aspects of the act of creation and connection and what should and shouldn’t be tied to expectation. The wondrous J. Robbins and Ryan’s long time working … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep383-ryan-patterson-fotocrime-coliseum-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep383: Ryan Patterson (Fotocrime, Coliseum)"</span></a></p> [...]
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Ep382: Buzz Osborne (Melvins)

Tarantula Heart. The latest Melvins record which was created in an unorthodox way with Ray from Ministry , and the King Dunn tour (Buzz and Trevor Dunn from Mr. Bungle) is finally happening after nearly 4 years. Eclipse madness! AI Art! Taking pictures and being on instagram. Melvins stuff being more or less free on … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep382-buzz-osborne-melvins-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep382: Buzz Osborne (Melvins)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep381: Greg Norton (Hüsker Dü, Ultrabomb)

Greg Norton is back! It’s been almost three years since last time. Ultrabomb! Cancer. So much to discuss. The new record Dying to Smile is almost here, we also discuss Time to Burn (the first Ultrabomb record), music discovery and becoming an advocate for the things you love. Progress and patience, New Day Rising, the … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep381-greg-norton-husker-du-ultrabomb/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep381: Greg Norton (Hüsker Dü, Ultrabomb)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep380: Kid Congo Powers (Pink Monkey Birds, the Gun Club, The Cramps, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds)

Kid Congo Powers has a brand new record called That Delicious Vice with his band The Pink Monkey Birds. Pair that with his book (Some Kind of Kick), and the recent Wolfmanhattan Project record (with Bob Bert and Mick Collins) and you have a very busy guy! But that is nothing new, The Gun Club … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep380-kid-congo-powers-pink-monkey-birds-the-gun-club-the-cramps-nick-cave-and-the-bad-seeds/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep380: Kid Congo Powers (Pink Monkey Birds, the Gun Club, The Cramps, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep379: Ralph Spight (Victims Family, The Freak Accident, Jello Biafra and the Guantanamo School of Medicine)

Victims Family has an awesome new split lp with Nasalrod! “In the Modern Meatspace“. We talk about that as well as a comprehensive history of Victims Family, a band who blazed their own trail throughout the 80s independent rock, the 90s gold rush and beyond. White Bread Blues, The Germ and lots more. Victims Family … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep379-ralph-spight-victims-family-the-freak-accident-jello-biafra-and-the-guantanamo-school-of-medicine/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep379: Ralph Spight (Victims Family, The Freak Accident, Jello Biafra and the Guantanamo School of Medicine)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep378: Blake Bickel (Bronson Arm)

The Bronson Arm self-titled record is still fairly recently released. We get into a detailed song by song of that debut, preceded by a bit of history of the band and how it all came together with so long to gestate. Pedals with Emerald Circuits, Dynamic Sound Mastering and a detailed deep dive into mastering … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep378-blake-bickel-bronson-arm/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep378: Blake Bickel (Bronson Arm)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep377: Norman Westberg (Swans, Heroine Sheiks, Solo)

That’s right it is weirdo guitar LEGEND Norm Westberg! Here not just to talk about the genre defying brutality of Swans or his magnificent ambient solo work, but to also speak about at length about the radically underrated Heroine Sheiks with Shannon Selberg of the Cows! So all things Gira and Jarboe, some King Crimson, … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep377-norman-westberg-swans-heroine-sheiks-solo-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep377: Norman Westberg (Swans, Heroine Sheiks, Solo)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep376: Steve Turner (Mudhoney, Green River, Monkeywrench, Author)

Mud Ride is the name of Steve’s book. A messy trip through the grunge explosion. Steve of course, was there for all of it as a first hand participant with Mudhoney and before that Green River. We talk about all of that, along with The Thrown-Ups, folk records, crate digging, Monkeywrech, day jobs and lots … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep376-steve-turner-mudhoney-green-river-monkeywrench-author-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep376: Steve Turner (Mudhoney, Green River, Monkeywrench, Author)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep375: Steven Hodson (USA Nails, BLKLSTRS, Kong)

Feel Worse is the new record by USA Nails, Steven also plays in the incredible BLKLSTRS as well, and was in Kong and Oceansize. So let’s get into that, as well as recording a record where 3/4 of the band are in the same city and one isn’t. BLKLSTRS eps, subbing in Future of the … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep375-steven-hodson-usa-nails-blklstrs-kong-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep375: Steven Hodson (USA Nails, BLKLSTRS, Kong)"</span></a></p> [...]

Ep374: Peter Prescott (Mission of Burma, Minibeast, Volcano Suns, Kustomized)

stream/dl Peter Prescott is the impresario and driving force behind Minibeast. To this day though, he is known to most as the drummer for the mighty Mission of Burma. We talk about the iconic album, ep and single by that band, and how it was somehow out of time and ahead of their time, and … <p class="link-more"><a href="https://www.protonicreversal.com/ep374-peter-prescott-mission-of-burma-minibeast-volcano-suns-kustomized-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "Ep374: Peter Prescott (Mission of Burma, Minibeast, Volcano Suns, Kustomized)"</span></a></p> [...]