It’s Birdstuff of MOAM? A noted raconteur and very funny man, oh yeah and a hell of a drummer! He runs a venue called the Saturn that “rips off” things he likes from other venues during years of touring. (A million dollar PA system costs a million dollars, and being nice is free). There is talk of aliases, and being inspired by dislike. Sending out postcards to fans, touring the world playing music that isn’t exactly HARD SURF, while maintaining a longtime pre-social network connection with highly engaged fans. Reminding Joel Hodgson of the words to the MST3K theme song live, usage of samples to differentiate the songs and tune and stuff. Estrus to Touch and Go and getting darker in the process. Also hear about SERVOTRON playing with Dave Pirner. Starcrunch, Birdstuff and Steve Albini sharing a bed heated by TV dinners (oh yeah, and recording with him too) and sooooo much more. IT’S GO TIME!…
Listen to the songs as a playlist (minus the Mr. Dude song) at:
#1 The Cell Phones – What You Would Do – Battery Lower Lindsey of the Cell Phones appears on Ep101 of Protonic Reversal. #2 Shiner – Life as a Mannequin – Schadenfreude Allen Epley of Shiner appears on Ep165 of Protonic Reversal. Josh Newton of Shiner appears on Ep76, Ep79 and (briefly) in Episode 100
#3 Hum – In The Den – Inlet
#4 Reptoid – You Have Already Been Compromised – Worship False Gods Jordan Sobolew appears on Ep182
#5 Heads. – Push You Out to Sea – Push Ed Fraser appears on Ep204
#6 Kid Dakota – Age of Roaches – Age of Roaches Darren Jackson appears on Ep219 and Ep108
#7 Bone and Bell – Can’t – To a Cinder Heather Smith appears on Ep218
#8 Coriky – Hard to Explain – Coriky Ian Mackaye appears on Ep209
#9 New Primals – A Beast With Two Backs – Horse Girl Energy
#10 Liar, Flower – My Brain is Lit Like an Airport – Geiger Counter KateJane Garside appears on Ep181
#11 Mint Mile – Shy – Ambertron Tim Midyett appears on Ep151, ep105 and Ep52
#12 Exhalants – Richard – Atonement
#13 The Tunnel – Punisher – Shape Shifter
#14 We Versus The Shark – I Am Never Going Home for Chrismas Again – Goodbye, Guitar
#15 Dead – Remorse – Raving Drooling
Jem of Dead appears on Ep154
#16 Waxeater – I Love Your Body, Larry – Extra Medium Rob of Waxeater appears on Ep183, Elliot of Waxeater appears on Ep23
#17 Mrs. Piss – Downer Surrounded by Uppers – Mrs. Piss
#18 Mr. Dude – USA Get Off My Dick – Killed by Life
James of Mr. Dude appears on Ep69
#19 Daggers – Erratic Retaliator Strategy – Instructions
#20 Hey Colossus – Donkey Jaw- Dances/Cures
Eddie and Conan go way back, all the way to Eddie’s late-90s, early 2000s “noise-rock band” Leopold. Plenty to talk about just with that, but he’s also a member of the reunited Distorted Pony(!). A much missed band from the halcyon days of weird music, and a band he was an unabashed fan of. How does one approach playing in one of your favorite bands and what does that look like? From tone to space, to practices with one member in a different state, european tours and everything in between, to being ready to ramp back up in 2020 and pump the brakes because of COVID. Get an insider’s look at this very specific set of parameters in cool noisy music with Eddie Rivas.…
It has been awhile since the enigmatic Darren Jackson (AKA: Kid Dakota) has been on Protonic Reversal. Last time was right after the reissue of So Pretty on vinyl, and before the sadly overlooked Denervation. This time it is a brand new record for 2020 (or at least a few weeks of it) Age of Roaches! We get into a song by song breakdown, as well as why some of this record has been kicking around for 14 years (!). Darren shares his process for working on the record and managing a day job teaching music, talk of dark lyrics, pastoral fetishism, and why is it that it might be inconvenient to the legend of Kid Dakota that he has continued making records. And in-depth look at an artist somehow shrouded in mystery and hiding in plain site.…
Heather Smith is Bone and Bell, an artist who sometimes has a band sometimes doesn’t. Her new record To a Cinder is something to behold. Orchestral Folk? Apocalyptic Americana? None of that does it justice. The songs are dark and true and quite compelling. She comes from a world of noisier music but expressed her art her way. Listen in on a song by song breakdown of the record, as well as the real life story of having to relearn to play completely after a major accident. Turning tragedy into triumph. An excellent visual artist and musician, this has been a long time coming.…
The mighty Greg Saunier of Deerhoof returns to Protonic Reversal! It has been over a year, and last time was pre-pandemic, uprising and election. Wow! Since we barely got through the first couple records last time with all the talk of San Francisco… this talk includes Defund the Police, and policing those that SAY Defund the Police, as well as all of the world events since then. It also gets us through the Chris Cohen era of Deerhoof and (almost all of) the 2000s. Many fine tales, including DAVID BOWIE, Thom Yorke slam dancing and putting together samples in the most torturous and labor intensive way possible. Work/life balance. All that. A DEEP DIVE into Reveille, Apple O, Milk Man, Green Cosmos, Runners Four and a little bit about Friend Opportunity.
Whew! Part three will be a lot sooner than the gap between part 1 and part 2. Promise!…
Welcome to a round table discussion on the rock band AC/DC, with Brian Walsby, Tony Ash and Conan Neutron. Album by album thoughts and breakdowns by three smart ass rock dudes that really like the band, but also appreciate their total absurdity.
HELLS BALLS! It is a protonic reversal special.…
Formation of the 8G Band with Fred Armisen! Playing Late Night with Seth Meyers… guest drummers and adjustments. A new way of working and who does and does not have punk rock reference points. (Also, nobody cares if you don’t watch tv.) Les Savy Fav starting up with 3/5 and playing those songs years later, LSF, the Ft. Thunder house band. Frenchkiss Records! the Cat and the Cobra, and obsessing about a sample. Toko Yasuda! ROME (written upside down), Playing with Shellac. The long history of the Inches 7″ single project, the puzzle and planning it from day one. Half the band writing hooks, half trying to tear it down. Go Forth! and trying to make things bloom on demand. Let’s Stay Friends, Root For Ruin and playing suites of cover songs where you are so behind the beat you get lapped for a live album. All this and much, much more in this very special Protonic Reversal.…
San Diego rock royalty Tobias Nathaniel is known to most for being half of the core of the iconic and influential Black Heart Procession. Excavating the maudlin, somber and longing of the human spirit and defining a sound. Now he lives in Belgrade Serbia and makes lively rock music with The Red Step. There’s still a color, there’s still a movement. We speak of him being a guitar player known for playing piano the most, AC30s (no pedals!), his contribution on Blonde Redhead’s Melody of Certain Damaged Lemons and one of those songs becoming a famous piece of music in Rick and Morty, working with David J, why The Spell is his favorite Black Heart record, learning to sing in a band after many years of playing music (finding a voice) and lots, lots more!
Greg has a new record (Child Soldier: Creator of God)! It is under his own name and most of it doesn’t sound much like Dillinger Escape Plan. Listen in as Greg and Conan talk about how directors and actors aren’t expected to do the same thing but musicians are. Boxes and rooms. Doing things because you have something to say vs. wanting to be heard. Spotify, categories and other prisons.
The founding of Federal Prisoner and putting out records that way, vs with a major label or established indie label. Making the decision to release the record under the same name he pays his power bill under, and removing the shield of band identity. Playing Alice in Chains songs with Jerry Cantrell in small rooms without volume to back up anything, and playing with people that make you step your game up. The ending of Dillinger Escape Plan, the origin story of Killer Be Killed (who also have a new record out!), and lots, LOTS more.…
At LONG LAST! A conversation with one of the most mysterious and unsung guitar heroes of “weird music”. Listen in as Helios and Conan talk about taking inspiration from Hendrix and Sabbath live (and the acid), and making timeless records like Alien Soundtracks and Half Machine Lip Moves too. Model trains. The sad decline of Damon Edge, Overcoming illness and adversity, touring with Hawkwind members, common cause with Flipper and Dead Kennedys. Lactating Purple! Look: Helios has had an incredible career, and it is likely you aren’t familiar with all of it. So act accordingly.
Also, It is entirely likely that you will get a contact high from this episode.…
Puscifer has a new record called Existential Reckoning. Conan talks with Agent Round and discuss: Arcosanti (live at…), Chapman Sticks, Fairlights and “people doing weird shit”, contrasting ideas (Fake Affront). Live vs. record and serving the song, Bob Dylan. New and surprising. Lyrics. Accept songs. “It’s wrong and it’s right, and it’s Puscifier”. Doing the work, even when it is divine. Nick Cave! Tears for Fears (what, seriously?)
Listen in on this talented artist talking about process, mindset and worldview.…
The iconic guitar player and composer breaks down playing and recording songs written in high school in Humboldt with thrash heroes like Scott Ian and Dave Lombardo. Flexing different muscles on the lost Bungle “thrash record” and relearning those songs. The difference between the architect/director of a band like SC3, vs JUST being the guitarist. Repairing non-standard/esoteric instruments on the road. Time signatures that are not actually odd. Ches! Danny! Orthodox Theology and Byzantine Chant.
Oh yeah, and King for a Day… Fool for a Lifetime by Faith No More too.
All that and some high minded concepts, ideas and conception about composition, tones and what is and is not paint by numbers.
Listen in to THE GRAND INQUISTOR (Conan Neutron) break it down with Trey. …
It has been 10 years since the release of the both groundbreaking and still somewhat lesser known Something for Everybody. As with many things DEVO, it came out just a little bit before its time. Sounding purposefully “modern,” and focus group approved, the energy hats were changed to the more pleasing color of blue, and everything from the mastering to the song choice was meant to shine a light on the world of music ala 2010.
Join us for a song by song breakdown, as well as a larger exploration of this fascinating record, with founding DEVO member Jerry Casale. A Protonic Reversal special.…
AWESOME. Been wanting to do this talk for a long time. In this episode, you will find: Some talk about podcasts (on a podcast), Coriky! The ecosystem around record stores and pandemic logistics. Starting on piano and moving to bass and then guitar! Baritones! Suggestion! fugazi demos! Instrument (but just the jerks). Lack of interest in nostalgia. Sitting down and standing back up, memes and mortality, Ian’s memory palace, being made into “content” and for what reason, some discussion on the psychological effect of social media and what you can and cannot control and some very thought provoking advice and perspective on maintaining sanity in crazy times. Be enCOURAGED and don’t give them your joy.…
An incredible career in music and an incredible catalog of songs. Sloan are a force to be reckoned with, an instrument switching band with equal parts songwriting duties and cut of the money. Major label rollercoaster and continuing work long after, we get some sloan songwriting power rankings, some details about the recording of the various records (NAVY BLUES!) and a whole lot of the Chris Murphy ethos. Oh yeah, a little bit about Scott Pilgrim, listen in on a music lifer who has forged a unique path forward and continues to do really cool stuff.…
Running Punks! Punks! Running! It has become quite the phenom. Album reviews by a man running and shouting at his phone. An online community motivating people to run all around the world that have a shared interest in weird music. Jimmy also spent time in Future of the Left and the Vega Bodegas playing guitar, but this thing with the running seems to really connect to people.
Turns out sticking to running isn’t such a bad thing after all.…
Not just one of the most iconic and Idiosyncratic front men of all time, Shannon Selberg has stories for days. Being “the heel” in the scene/support slot, cover choices, forcing the audience to be in the moment, WALTZES, musical “jokes”, Thor’s non-euclidian geometry guitar work, and eating a major label rep’s business card. All that and a wee bit of Heroine Sheiks too. Draw yourself a marker mustache and dig in.…
Patrick was 1/4 of the incredible Poison Control Center, an indie psych band that presented live as a HELL ASS ROCK BAND like the Who or something. In recent years he has done the more cerebral, and baroque multimedia (and mostly one man) band Gloom Balloon. Who has a new record. “Bergman Uses Bach To Get His Point Across, I Feel Like I Have Chosen Rock But At What A Cost”on Grand Phony. What better time to discuss “Why we do, what we do?” right?? It’s in the dang album title. Anyway, a far ranging discussion with the pride of Iowa.…
Ed started late in life, and moved to another continent to put together his dream band. He did and it is awesome. Heads. is a perfect exemplar of a working band that makes music far outside the mainstream that means a whole lot to who it is for. Great talk with a song by song breakdown of the most recent record “Push”.…
The Crash and Ride Podcast is a unique and beautiful thing, uniquely dedicated to helping musicians survive depression and anxiety. We could JUST talk about that, but Patrick has also played in the incredible Five Eight, Pinky Doodle Poodle, the Powder Room, some incredible session work and… the Psychedelic Furs? Amazing.
Listen in on and as we talk about the real life mental health struggles of musicians, artists and beyond and take a journey through this incredible drummer’s storied career.
Jeff Mueller returns! The most recent June of 44 release: “Revisionist: Adaptations & Future Histories In The Time Of Love And Survival” is discussed, as well as heavy talk about Jo44 in general, Shipping News and the mighty RODAN! (like the live show that was put up on bandcamp last year) Dexterity Press as well. All this and Covid Life talk. Show me how you cut your face!
It is the 201st episode of Conan Neutron’s Protonic Reversal with the incredible Christopher Williams of Plastic Flame Press and Maple Stave. The creative and talented young man, who is launching the second season of his excellent interview podcast: The Operative.
Screen printing! Bands! Shows! WDYDWYD?!
It is the 200th episode! Conan has extended conversations with former cohosts Brenna Betts (ep: 7-88) and Josh Davis (ep95-129). As well as a montage of guests answering “Why do you what you do?” It is a very different and inward looking protonic reversal exploring the past of the very show itself!
RAW POWER, that should just be the description. But there’s a lot to James Williamson
beyond just the Stooges. including a great new record called Two to One with Deniz Tek of Radio Birdman. Awesome! We talk a LOT of Stooges, and a lot about more recent stuff. Including his dual life working in tech before picking the guitar back up with Iggy, in a world where the Stooges are viewed VERY differently. Listen in to a guitar PIONEER!
Steve Von Till has an excellent new solo record and book of poetry. We talk about that as well as the various works and path of Neurosis, Neurot, Harvestman vs. solo work, teaching, live at Pompeii, stone circles, punk rock, and lots, lots more.
Listen in on an uncompromising artist that has forged his own path and has an unparalleled body of work. A great sense of self and a drive to push forward.
Von Wildenhaus is a band, and it is the brainchild of a fella named Ben. Ben also played in the incredible (and wildly underrated) Federation X. Christmas albums! Making low key music compelling! The out of phase history of Federation X. All of that and lots more is talked about with this interesting bi-coastal musician who is forging his own path and scoring his own future.
A living legend! That’s what Alain Johannes is, either you know or you don’t. An incredible player that has lived an incredible life, you have heard Alain’s work in many, many key records. At long lost: Alain and Conan break it all down for you. Including some quantum mechanics talk. Sha-MEN, or Sha-MON?
Buzz is from the Melvins, Trevor is most known for Mr. Bungle but has done a *LOT* of stuff.
Buzz Osborne & Trevor Dunn are today’s guests we talk about “Gift of Sacrifice”, Buzz’s new acoustic record w/Trevor on bass, fantomas! Mr. bungle! tomahawk! trio-convulsant! 50 states in 50 days! Melvins lite! Terry Bozzio! and lots lots more.
(administration note: this interview occurred several days before the two year old Buzz Osborne appearance with Gavin Mcinnes, and contains no references to that appearance. reaction or aftermath. It is the view of Conan Neutron’s Protonic Reversal that appearance has been addressed and clarified in other media.)
Whether it’s the heavy noise-rock of the pioneering Fudge Tunnel of Nottingham, England, the ever enduring side-project Nailbomb with Max of Sepultura, the uncompromising raucousness of Theory of Ruin or the storied and deep career of producing bands as diverse as at.the.drive.in, Death Cab for Cutie, bloc party and godheadSilo. Alex Newport has done a lot.
Check out this LONG OVERDUE protonic reversal with the man, where we speak at length about all of those bands as well his path into recording proper.