Ep202: Jeff Mueller (June of 44, Shipping News, Rodan)

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Jeff Mueller returns! The most recent June of 44 release: “Revisionist: Adaptations & Future Histories In The Time Of Love And Survival” is discussed, as well as heavy talk about Jo44 in general, Shipping News and the mighty RODAN! (like the live show that was put up on bandcamp last year) Dexterity Press as well. All this and Covid Life talk. Show me how you cut your face!

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  • Ep202: Jeff Mueller (June of 44, Shipping News, Rodan)

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    Jeff Mueller returns! The most recent June of 44 release: “Revisionist: Adaptations & Future Histories In The Time Of Love And Survival” is discussed, as well as heavy talk about Jo44 in general, Shipping News and the mighty RODAN! (like the live show that was put up on bandcamp last year) Dexterity Press as well. All this and Covid Life talk. Show me how you cut your face!

  • Ep201: Chris Williams (Maple Stave, Plastic Flame Press, The Operative)

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    It is the 201st episode of Conan Neutron’s Protonic Reversal with the incredible Christopher Williams of Plastic Flame Press and Maple Stave. The creative and talented young man, who is launching the second season of his excellent interview podcast: The Operative.

    Screen printing! Bands! Shows! WDYDWYD?!

  • Ep200! Brenna Betts! Josh Davis! “Why Do You Do What You Do?”

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    It is the 200th episode! Conan has extended conversations with former cohosts Brenna Betts (ep: 7-88) and Josh Davis (ep95-129). As well as a montage of guests answering “Why do you what you do?” It is a very different and inward looking protonic reversal exploring the past of the very show itself!

  • Ep199: James Williamson (Iggy and the Stooges)

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    RAW POWER, that should just be the description. But there’s a lot to James Williamson
    beyond just the Stooges. including a great new record called Two to One with Deniz Tek of Radio Birdman. Awesome! We talk a LOT of Stooges, and a lot about more recent stuff. Including his dual life working in tech before picking the guitar back up with Iggy, in a world where the Stooges are viewed VERY differently. Listen in to a guitar PIONEER!

  • Ep198: Steve Von Till (Neurosis, Harvestman, Solo artist)

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    Steve Von Till has an excellent new solo record and book of poetry. We talk about that as well as the various works and path of Neurosis, Neurot, Harvestman vs. solo work, teaching, live at Pompeii, stone circles, punk rock, and lots, lots more. 

    Listen in on an uncompromising artist that has forged his own path and has an unparalleled body of work. A great sense of self and a drive to push forward. 

  • Ep197: Ben Von Wildenhaus (Von Wildenhaus, Federation X)

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    Von Wildenhaus is a band, and it is the brainchild of a fella named Ben. Ben also played in the incredible (and wildly underrated) Federation X. Christmas albums! Making low key music compelling! The out of phase history of Federation X. All of that and lots more is talked about with this interesting bi-coastal musician who is forging his own path and scoring his own future. 

  • Ep196: Alain Johannes (Eleven, QOTSA, Desert Sessions, PJ Harvey, Producer)

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    A living legend! That’s what Alain Johannes is, either you know or you don’t. An incredible player that has lived an incredible life, you have heard Alain’s work in many, many key records. At long lost: Alain and Conan break it all down for you. Including some quantum mechanics talk. Sha-MEN, or Sha-MON?

  • Ep195: Buzz Osborne & Trevor Dunn (Melvins, Fantomas, Mr. Bungle, King Buzzo [with Trevor Dunn])

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    Buzz is from the Melvins, Trevor is most known for Mr. Bungle but has done a *LOT* of stuff. 

    Buzz Osborne & Trevor Dunn are today’s guests we talk about “Gift of Sacrifice”, Buzz’s new acoustic record w/Trevor on bass, fantomas! Mr. bungle! tomahawk! trio-convulsant! 50 states in 50 days! Melvins lite! Terry Bozzio! and lots lots more. 

    (administration note: this interview occurred several days before the two year old Buzz Osborne appearance with Gavin Mcinnes, and contains no references to that appearance. reaction or aftermath. It is the view of Conan Neutron’s Protonic Reversal that appearance has been addressed and clarified in other media.)

  • Ep194: Alex Newport (Fudge Tunnel, Nailbomb, Theory of Ruin, Producer)

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    Whether it’s the heavy noise-rock of the pioneering Fudge Tunnel of Nottingham, England, the ever enduring side-project Nailbomb with Max of Sepultura, the uncompromising raucousness of Theory of Ruin or the storied and deep career of producing bands as diverse as at.the.drive.in, Death Cab for Cutie, bloc party and godheadSilo. Alex Newport has done a lot. 

    Check out this LONG OVERDUE protonic reversal with the man, where we speak at length about all of those bands as well his path into recording proper.

  • Ep193: Patty Schemel (Hole, Upset)

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    Hit So Hard is a book by the incredible Patty Schemel. Patty has led an incredible life, including her time as the groundbreaking (and hard hitting) drummer for the band Hole. This here episode is a walk through of everything from her finding her people in punk rock, the rise of a legit huge band during the alt-gold rush, a fall from grace and getting back up to rediscover what led her to drumming and music in the first place. Strap in! 

  • Ep192: Phil Manley (Trans Am, Terry Gross, Life Coach)

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    Phil Manley is most known for the incredible band TRANS AM, but he also played in a latter version of the Fucking Champs, plays in Life Coach with Jon Theodore of Mars Volta and QOTSA and is in the awesome Terry Gross! Hear all about Phil’s relocation from east coast to west, a run down for all of the Trans Am records and… jamming with Zack De La Rocha?

    It’s been 123 episodes since Phil’s been on the show, clearly a few things have happened since then! DIG IN!

  • A tribute to Vern Rumsey

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    Long before Vern Rumsey recorded my old band Replicator, long before I was crashing at his place on tour. LONG before HHG. I was listening to Unwound. Wearing out my cassette tapes rocking out to Repetition or New Plastic Ideas.

    Put simply, they were one of the reasons I play music in the first place. Their unique and iconic sound was so immediate and compelling and it’s forceful presentation inspired me. I always held that in my head and heart, even as we created stuff together and approached things as musical peers. Vern didn’t seem to realize how much Unwound had touched and inspired people, as if Leaves Turn Inside You isn’t one of the best albums ever made in indie rock. Come on!

    But Unwound did and he was a big part of that. Vern wasn’t a perfect guy, his demons are well documented, and shouldn’t be ignored. He was an alcoholic, let’s not short sell that.

    He sought help and received it, and transcended that gross and destructive addiction for awhile. He dug deep and brought the thunder with us and found a light in the darkness to transcend for.

    He was without a doubt the biggest advocate of Household Gods and was experiencing the deep high of creative satisfaction.

    I was glad he got to have that. I am glad to have been in his life.

    He was one of the most unique and interesting bass players of all time for my tastes, one of a kind. An icon.
    I remember watching him play in the unstoppable and incredible Unwound, just bearing down in that inexorable way. Smoking tough the entire time.
    A portrait of rock ’n roll cool, a viking.

    The world is a sadder and quieter place without him in it and I miss my friend.

    Rest in Power,
    Vern Rumsey

    Playlist:

    Unwound – Corpse Pose
    Unwound – Valentine Card / Kantina / Were, Are And Was Or Is

    Unwound – Demolished
    Unwound – Side Effects of Being Tired
    Unwound – Broken E-Strings

    Unwound – December
    Unwound – For Your Entertainment

    Oslo of Olympia – Walk The Plank
    Blonde Redhead – Water

    Unwound – All Souls Day
    Unwound – Terminus

    Unwound – Lady Elect
    Unwound – Envelope

    Long Hind Legs – Open Wide
    Unwound – Re-Enact the Crime

    Unwound – Dragnalus
    Unwound – Off This Century

    Red Rumsey – Big House
    Unwound – Arboretum

    Household Gods – Rest In Power (Instrumental)/Unwound – Below The Salt

  • Ep191: Jennifer Finch (L7)

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    Jennifer Finch has lived an incredible life. Most known for being 1/4th of the powerful and incredible L7. We talk about photography, records, mindsets, the recording process, leaving L7 and coming back, and lots more. You know, Protonic Reversal stuff. Jennifer doesn’t do many interviews, so it was a blast to talk to her about everything from to Roy Thomas Baker and Voight-Kampff tests to answering machine message tapes that have Kurt Cobain on them.

  • Ep190: David Pajo (Slint, Papa M, Zwan, Household Gods, Tortoise, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Interpol, Dead Child, Stereolab)

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    David Pajo has played with everybody from Billy Corgan, Karen O, Neil Hagerty to… well, Conan Neutron. To this day, he’s still most known for being a member of the iconic, influential and genre defining band Slint. Listen in on a bit of all of that as well as talk of DEAD CHILD (the band), Papa M (of course), touring with Yeah Yeah Yeahs and Interpol, a smidgen of talk about Household Gods. The band with David Pajo, Vern Rumsey of Unwound, LKN and uh… another guy. He’s a suicide and motorcycle accident survivor, a master musician and a hell of a nice guy. It’s… David Pajo!

  • Ep189: Ross Knight (Cosmic Psychos)

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    Australian pub/scum rock legends the Cosmic Psychos have blazed a trail of uncompromising working man’s punk rock, leaving both good times and empty beer cans in their wake for 38 years. The man at that helm is Mr. Ross Knight, a pleasantly rowdy fellow who literally lives on a farm, and is most certainly a bloke you can trust.

    Listen in! Go the hack on this episode of Protonic Reversal down under. 

  • Ep188: A Deer, A Horse (Rebecca, Angela, Dylan)

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    NYC Band A Deer A Horse are quarantined, but they did manage to get in some touring first. This is a free wheeling conversation with a young, working co-ed band in the somewhat uniform (and largely male!) genre of noise rock. Best and worst shows, the nature of rock crit. All of that and more! Three very thoughtful and funny folks breaking it down. 

  • Ep187: Phill Calvert (The Birthday Party)

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    From the Boys Next Door to Junkyard, Phill was on the drums in the mighty and majestic Birthday Party. From the earliest days, all the way to the iconoclastic and influential Junkyard. Listen in! Noise + Nick Cave at his most unhinged, post-punk history told straight from one of the fellas that made it. Dang!

  • Ep186: Rick Valentin and Rose Marshack (Poster Children, Radio Zero)

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    Rick and Rose have had an incredible history in music, largely with their band the Poster Children. Navigating the original indie label movement, the early 90s gold rush, and the “I like it small” modern indie rock movement. All with an eye towards sustainability and making informed choices towards those goals. Rick and Rose have both appeared before, but this episode focuses on an album by album account, and all the sidebars that entails! It is like a Radio Zero crossover episode.

  • Ep185: The Culture of Like and Subscribe with Steve Albini

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    LIKEANDSUBSCRIBE!LIKEANDSUBSCRIBE!DON’TFORGETTOLIKEANDSUBSCRIBE!

    It’s ubiquitous, every show and thing out there is trying to work the algorithms to be heard, seen or otherwise recognized. 

    This episode is a 1 on 1 talk with Mr. Steve Albini about exactly that. This was meant as a 20 minute episode based on the single topic, but we expanded to other things, including monetization in general, commodification, etc. 

  • Ep184: Tony Visconti (Producer: David Bowie, T. Rex, Iggy Pop, Thin Lizzy)

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    Tony Visconti is a legend in recording, not just Bowie’s long time producer, but a member of his band in the Man Who Sold the World days. Listen in as we hear tales from almost all eras of Bowie, as well as his work with Marc Bolan/T. Rex, Iggy Pop’s the Idiot, and Thin Lizzy (!). WOW!

  • Ep183: Rob Montage (Waxeater)

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    WAXEATER is a band from Louisville, KY. Rob is a teacher by day and noiserocker by night. He’s a good talker and has many opinions. He’s also very entertaining. They have a brand new record called Extra Medium, their first in *checks notes*, a VERY long time. Listen in, it’s a song by song breakdown and lots, lots more. 

  • Ep182: Jordan Sobolew (Reptoid)

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    “One man noise-rock Aneursym from Oakland, California”  Let that sink in. Reptoid sounds like the End of the World, but… you know in a good way. What kind of man embarks on an arduous endeavor like this? Jordan Sobolew.

  • Ep181: KatieJane Garside (Daisy Chainsaw, Liar,Flower, Queen Adreena)

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    KatieJane Garside is a bit of an enigma for some. She has a new album under the name Liar, Flower with longtime collaborator Chris Whittingham. We talk about that: all her various bands (like Queen Adreena and Daisy Chainsaw), living on a boat, meditation, sublimation and eradication of self in creative pursuits and and many other things.

  • Ep180: Jared Warren (Big Business, the Whip, KARP, Melvins)

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    Jared Warren has done a LOT. And with the recent release of the compendium of the “lost” band between KARP and Big Biz: The Whip, there’s even more to listen to now. Listen in as Jared and Conan talk about and around Scotty, the Big Business arc, the time in and around the Melvins and a little bit about the…  KARP reissues?!

    It might be the most detailed accounting of Big Business around!

  • Ep179: Travis Keller (Buddyhead, American Primitive)

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    Travis’s site Buddyhead is a name associated with iconoclastic irreverence to this DAY. In the days before everybody had a hot take, and the ability to take down sacred cows, Buddyhead ruled the school Now he’s pivoted towards making things himself.

    Travis returns for his THIRD protonic episode, to talk about those days as well as the various zines, videos (Mark Lanegan!), shirts and things that he is up to with American Primitive. Oh yeah, and Amanda Palmer splitting up with Neil Gaiman over Patreon for some reason.

    (this episode takes place BEFORE the recent uprisings)

  • Zak Sally - Low, the Hand, Enemymine

    Ep178: Zak Sally (The Hand, Low, Enemymine)

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    Zak Sally is known best for being the bassplayer of Low or his comics, but he is also in an absolutely incendiary band called THE HAND with Dale Flattum of Steel Pole Bath Tub. All that is discussed, as well as general pandemic stuff. 

  • Ep177: Dan Gatto (BABYLAND, Continues)

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    The revolutionary and incredible electronic junk punk band BABYLAND was a huge influence on Conan, here they discuss that iconic band’s origin, moving from one off art project to DIY paragons. The world around early 90s weird music in LA. Moving on with Continues and quite a bit about the general state of everything in these Covid-19 times.
    (note: this episode takes place before the George Floyd killing and subsequent uprisings)

    Here is a youtube version of the show (a grand experiment!)

  • Ep176: David Scott Stone (LCD Soundsystem, Melvins, Unwound, Big Business, Slug, Get Hustle, etc.)

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    Dave Scott Stone has done a *LOT*, being an auxiliary member of Big Business, Unwound and the Melvins. To joining LCD Soundsystem, to making soundtracks with a member of Duran Duran! Listen in on this talented man’s incredible journey in music and hear the true story of the falling out with Melvins. 

  • Ep175: Jerry Casale (DEVO) pt. 2

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    Jerry Casale’s full length appearance in episode 159 was expansive in scope and covered quite a bit, but we didn’t get to everything. Soooo… Mr. Casale returned for what WAS to be a quick 20-30 minute followup.

    Listen in as Jerry and Conan talk about the insane story of the movie Human Highway and DEVO’s association with Neil Young. The anniversary of the Kent State shootings. The Are We Not Men? / ChiChi Rodriguez artwork story, the 50 by 50 winery, the (still yet unreleased) DEVO documentary and yes… the source of “Show me some of what’s about to happen.” (Hint: Ben Orr of the Cars) and lots more.

  • Ep174: Martin Atkins (PiL, Pigface, Killing Joke)

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    Martin Atkins has had an incredible lifetime in and around music, listen in as he and Conan go into great depth on the historic and iconic Flowers of Romance record by Public Image Limited, including performing on American Bandstand (!) and doing everything the most difficult way possible with that group. Working with Killing Joke and non-relatable songwriting, the inception and continuing wild ride of Pigface, borne off of Ministry touring. Reveling in the unexpected and using the chaos as a change agent. Abandonment of ego to create a greater whole.

    All of this plus his journey into academia and his excellent (and very funny) general advice for working smart as a band and finding what it is that makes the band special. Some of which can be found in his (FREE!) book: Band Smart: Succeed On the Music Business on Your Own Terms.

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