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<p><a href="http://www.radionope.com/podcasts/protonicreversal/?name=2018-06-15_119_ep119__joe_cardamone_the_icarus_line_michael_grodner_the_icarus_line_must_die.mp3">(stream and download – Episode 119)</a></p>
<p>Double the guests, double the fun! As Conan and Josh have on Joe Cardamone of the Icarus Line and Michael Grodner, filmmaker beyond the upcoming (sorta) biopic: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/theicaruslinemustdie/">The Icarus Line Must Die</a>.</p>
<p>17:05 Michael Grodner</p>
<p>57:10 Joe Cardamone</p>
<p><a href="http://www.honorrollproductions.com/">Michael Grodner</a>:<br />
-The Jim Jarmusch Black and White Aesthteic.<br />
-It’s not a documentary<br />
-darkness following the band.<br />
-relating to creative pursuits<br />
-art vs. commerce, subtly<br />
-Jerry Stahl’s book-on-vinyl<br />
-Keith Morris<br />
–<a href="http://dirtylaundry.tv/">Dirty Laundry (TV!)</a><br />
-the Hell of fundraising vs. actually making a movie.<br />
https://www.facebook.com/theicaruslinemustdie/</p>
<p><a href="http://joecardamone.net/">Joe Cardamone</a><br />
-Starting the film having no idea what was going on<br />
-Dialogue that sounds like one person (aka: Sorkin-speak)<br />
-Gimme Danger the movie: a missed opportunity<br />
-Some Kind of Monster: Best thing ever<br />
-Music’s marketability and it’s inextricable ties to youth culture<br />
-not taking advantage of making a “comeback”<br />
-Eastbound & Down<br />
-Scott Weiland’s death and the last Icarus Line’s last show<br />
-Getting real life in the movie<br />
-Metallica in a Bob Log style<br />
-How to get to the solo record<br />
-“Do whatever you want. No one’s going
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