Category: Protonic Reversal

Ep388: 10th Anniversary Spectacular (Duane Denison, Coady Willis, Marnie Stern, Steve Albini, Falco, Bob Bert, David Pajo, Alain Johannes, John Schmersal, Mike Morasky, Dale Crover, Jennifer Precious Finch, Ian MacKaye)Ep388: 10th Anniversary Spectacular (Duane Denison, Coady Willis, Marnie Stern, Steve Albini, Falco, Bob Bert, David Pajo, Alain Johannes, John Schmersal, Mike Morasky, Dale Crover, Jennifer Precious Finch, Ian MacKaye)

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13 (!) new interviews, about 10 minutes each to celebrate the 10 year anniversary of the podcast. Wow!

1. Duane Denison (The Jesus Lizard, Tomahawk, DK3) (Ep158, Ep94)

2. Coady Willis – (High on Fire, Melvins, Big Business, Murder City Devils) (Ep132)

3. Marnie Stern – (Ep361)

4. Steve Albini – (Shellac, Big Black, Electrical Audio Studio) (Ep185, Ep150, Ep127, Ep21)

5. Andrew “Falco” Falkous – (mclusky, Future of the Left) {Ep371, Ep241, Ep157, Ep116, Ep100, Ep89, Ep63, Ep14, Ep04)

6. Bob Bert (Sonic Youth, Pussy Galore, Jon Spencer & the HITmakers, Lydia Lunch RetroVirus, Wolfmanhattan project) (Ep128)

7. David Pajo  – (Slint, Gang of Four, Papa M, Zwan, Household Gods, Tortoise, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Interpol, Dead Child, Stereolab)(Ep190)

8. Alain Johannes – (Eleven, Queens of the Stone Age, Desert Sessions, PJ Harvey, Producer) (Ep196)

9. John Schmersal (Brainiac, Enon, Vertical Scratchers, Crooks on Tape), (Ep311, Ep136)

10. Mike Morasky (Steel Pole Bath Tub, Milk Cult, Cassette Prophet) (Ep349, Ep329, Ep162)

11. Dale Crover (Melvins, Redd Kross, Dale Crover Band, Conan Neutron & the Secret Friends, Nirvana) (Ep230, Ep155, Ep100, Ep066)

12. Jennifer Finch (L7, OtherStarPeople) (Ep191)

13. Ian MacKaye (fugazi, Coriky, the Evens, Minor Threat, Dischord Records) (Ep209)

Keep it lit.

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Ep387: Doni Blair (The Toadies, Hagfish, Only Crime, Author)Ep387: Doni Blair (The Toadies, Hagfish, Only Crime, Author)

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Doni Blair is best known as bassplayer for 90s legends The Toadies, but just like his brother Zach. Conan knows him from his old band Hagfish! We talk all about the Hagfish days, and van touring, as well as the glory and the allure of the Rickenbacker bass., a father who was a rock DJ, the “selling out” argument, and no thanks at all the MTV. The book Doni wrote and his journey (over 40!) with martial arts. Even if it Kills Me: Martial Arts, Rock and Roll and of course Dia De Los Toadies, the new record (!) Toadies has recorded with Steve Albini, what to expect for the future with that band, and being a catalog band with loyal fans and finding new audience members as time goes. It is the great Doni Blair! Dive in.

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Ep386: Danbert Nobacon (Chumbawama, Solo, Axis of Dissent)Ep386: Danbert Nobacon (Chumbawama, Solo, Axis of Dissent)


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Danbert is a anarcho-punk icon that cofounded Anarchist collective punk group Chumbawamba in 1982, yes that’s right the one with the “I get knocked down, but I get up again” song. All about the origin and the journey of “the song” that changed the band’s world for quite some time. Split release with Noam Chomsky, dumping water on hypocrite politicians and his newest record Kochtopus’s Garden – Now That’s What I Call Capitalism – The Musical. A very direct political record about two song-bots that escape their confines and flee across America all while “Dark Money Anon,” the entity that has taken control of the States, tries to hunt them down. Punk, folk, reggae and while slashing at capitalism, militarism, authorism, sexism, racism and all the various isms. All this from the guy who fronted the band that released “Pictures of Starving Children Sell Records” “Never Mind the Ballots” and many other cheeky, too-smart irascible and funny records. And took ad money to give it explicitly to anti-corporate groups.

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Ep385: Roger C. Miller (Mission of Burma, Anvil Orchestra, Composer)Ep385: Roger C. Miller (Mission of Burma, Anvil Orchestra, Composer)

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The legendary guitarist for Mission of Burma arrives to talk about dream interpretations for solo guitar, silent film accompaniment, Vs., reunions, how the world caught up to Mission of Burma, Alloy Orchestra/The Anvil Orchestra (scoring Dr. Caligari at MFF soon!), Moving Parts, working on soundtracks, tapes, drones, Maximum Electric Piano, conceptual art like Transmuting the Prosaic, chamber music and so much more!

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Ep384: Rick Sims (Didjits, Gaza Strippers)Ep384: Rick Sims (Didjits, Gaza Strippers)

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293 episodes since Rick Sims last protoniced, did they even have podcasts then? Was it on wax cylinders? Probably. Anyway! Strictly Dynamite is the new Best of and Rarities Didjits collection. It’s got all of the best stuff, but also has some stuff that even the true heads don’t have. We get into the confrontation and “monster voice” of the some of the Didjits stuff, how some of that probably, possibly, definitely hasn’t aged too well, what that means for music now. Why rock ‘n roll should be dangerous, and lots of other stuff! Supersuckers! Gaza Strippers! Just Fred with Fred Schneider of the B-52s and of course the Lee Harvey Oswald band. Hey! It is Rick Sims. Let’s go!

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Ep383: Ryan Patterson (Fotocrime, Coliseum)Ep383: Ryan Patterson (Fotocrime, Coliseum)

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Long time coming! Ryan Patterson has a great new Fotocrime record called Accelerated. And there’s also a TWO OFF Coliseum reunion/celebration coming up shortly! We dive into all the aspects of the act of creation and connection and what should and shouldn’t be tied to expectation. The wondrous J. Robbins and Ryan’s long time working relationship and friendship with the man. The legacy of Coliseum (with some distance), while there could be more Coliseum stuff in the future, but a world tour shouldn’t be expected, genre boxes and picking up on sounds and ideas that others cannot do anymore and lots more. The C.L.S.M. Infinity Shit Coliseum record as a cul-de-sac. Shirtkiller and lots more! Dive in!

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Ep382: Buzz Osborne (Melvins)Ep382: Buzz Osborne (Melvins)

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Tarantula Heart. The latest Melvins record which was created in an unorthodox way with Ray from Ministry , and the King Dunn tour (Buzz and Trevor Dunn from Mr. Bungle) is finally happening after nearly 4 years. Eclipse madness! AI Art! Taking pictures and being on instagram. Melvins stuff being more or less free on youtube the collector’s mentality and handmade aspect of the limited edition Melvins things. Wayne Kramer, fantomas, Alice Cooper Band, Helms Alee, Toshi Kasai, Allman Brothers, Cheap Trick, Five Legged Dog (the acoustic record) and the slow methodical creation of that. Re-recording things, Hipgnosis and the old style album cover, the AMREP singles series and lots, lots more! Dive in!

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Ep381: Greg Norton (Hüsker Dü, Ultrabomb)Ep381: Greg Norton (Hüsker Dü, Ultrabomb)

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Greg Norton is back! It’s been almost three years since last time. Ultrabomb! Cancer. So much to discuss. The new record Dying to Smile is almost here, we also discuss Time to Burn (the first Ultrabomb record), music discovery and becoming an advocate for the things you love. Progress and patience, New Day Rising, the influence of the Dü, the Ultrabomb story, last years tour with Bar Stool Preachers and this tour coming up with Me First and the Gimme Gimmes, and of course Greg’s successful battle against prostate cancer.

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Ep380: Kid Congo Powers (Pink Monkey Birds, the Gun Club, The Cramps, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds)Ep380: Kid Congo Powers (Pink Monkey Birds, the Gun Club, The Cramps, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds)

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Kid Congo Powers has a brand new record called That Delicious Vice with his band The Pink Monkey Birds. Pair that with his book (Some Kind of Kick), and the recent Wolfmanhattan Project record (with Bob Bert and Mick Collins) and you have a very busy guy! But that is nothing new, The Gun Club and Jeffrey Lee Pierce, Lux, Ivy and the Cramps! Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, Wings of Desire, and so much more. From zines and fanclubs to being on stage. Punk rock as community for the freaks, nerds and weirdos of the world as well as safe haven for gay folks. Tucson vs. New York and Los Angeles. It is the legend! Kid Congo Powers!

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Ep379: Ralph Spight (Victims Family, The Freak Accident, Jello Biafra and the Guantanamo School of Medicine)Ep379: Ralph Spight (Victims Family, The Freak Accident, Jello Biafra and the Guantanamo School of Medicine)

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Victims Family has an awesome new split lp with Nasalrod! “In the Modern Meatspace“. We talk about that as well as a comprehensive history of Victims Family, a band who blazed their own trail throughout the 80s independent rock, the 90s gold rush and beyond. White Bread Blues, The Germ and lots more. Victims Family family, The Freak Accident, and of course Jello Biafra and the Guantanamo School of Medicine, from the start to current. It’s a career spanner with one of the great “weird guitar players” of the bay area.

Ep378: Blake Bickel (Bronson Arm)Ep378: Blake Bickel (Bronson Arm)

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The Bronson Arm self-titled record is still fairly recently released. We get into a detailed song by song of that debut, preceded by a bit of history of the band and how it all came together with so long to gestate. Pedals with Emerald Circuits, Dynamic Sound Mastering and a detailed deep dive into mastering itself, what it does and why it is important, baritone talk, split signals, space and inspiration from unique sources. It is Blake! It is Bronson Arm.

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Ep377: Norman Westberg (Swans, Heroine Sheiks, Solo)Ep377: Norman Westberg (Swans, Heroine Sheiks, Solo)

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That’s right it is weirdo guitar LEGEND Norm Westberg! Here not just to talk about the genre defying brutality of Swans or his magnificent ambient solo work, but to also speak about at length about the radically underrated Heroine Sheiks with Shannon Selberg of the Cows! So all things Gira and Jarboe, some King Crimson, Sonic Youth borrowing gear, as well as how to use Etsy to sell limited edition ambient works. All of that plus: “Which Swans song is their Louie, Louie?” 

Ep376: Steve Turner (Mudhoney, Green River, Monkeywrench, Author)Ep376: Steve Turner (Mudhoney, Green River, Monkeywrench, Author)

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Mud Ride is the name of Steve’s book. A messy trip through the grunge explosion. Steve of course, was there for all of it as a first hand participant with Mudhoney and before that Green River. We talk about all of that, along with The Thrown-Ups, folk records, crate digging, Monkeywrech, day jobs and lots more. Lukin and Maddison, March to Fuzz, Protest songs. Punk rock. I’m Now! Chardonnay! Fearless Doctor Killers! You Got It (which version! And which song is the best introduction to what Mudhoney does and so very much more. Been trying to get this one done for literal years and HERE. WE. ARE. 

Ep375: Steven Hodson (USA Nails, BLKLSTRS, Kong)Ep375: Steven Hodson (USA Nails, BLKLSTRS, Kong)

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Feel Worse is the new record by USA Nails, Steven also plays in the incredible BLKLSTRS as well, and was in Kong and Oceansize. So let’s get into that, as well as recording a record where 3/4 of the band are in the same city and one isn’t. BLKLSTRS eps, subbing in Future of the Left, Song by Song breakdown of Feel Worse and lots, lots more!

Ep374: Peter Prescott (Mission of Burma, Minibeast, Volcano Suns, Kustomized)Ep374: Peter Prescott (Mission of Burma, Minibeast, Volcano Suns, Kustomized)

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Peter Prescott is the impresario and driving force behind Minibeast. To this day though, he is known to most as the drummer for the mighty Mission of Burma. We talk about the iconic album, ep and single by that band, and how it was somehow out of time and ahead of their time, and the reunion, hearing protection measure (the cone of silence!), record score discoveries, rocking while aging, moving to Providence and more. The rise of Volcano Suns, Kustomized and moving from behind the drums to get rhythmically krautrock with Minibeast. 

Ep373: J. Robbins (Jawbox, J. Robbins Band, Burning Airlines, Magpie Cage)Ep373: J. Robbins (Jawbox, J. Robbins Band, Burning Airlines, Magpie Cage)

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J. Robbins returns! He has a brand new record called Basilisk.  It has been awhile since last he was on. How long? Well his LAST album Un-becoming wasn’t even done yet then and that was 2019. So there you go. In-depth with a song by song on Basilisk as well as For Your Own Special Sweetheart turning 30 years old. Post-Bill Barbot Jawbox, the impartial overview tour and whether that will be the end of the reunited Jawbox or not. Brooks! Gordon! What the hey, it is J. Robbins folks. Let’s go!

Ep372: John Wright (NoMeansNo, Dead Bob) and Jason Lamb (NMN book)Ep372: John Wright (NoMeansNo, Dead Bob) and Jason Lamb (NMN book)

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John Wright of NoMeansNo and Dead Bob returns! And this time he has the NMN biographer Jason Lamb, author of NoMeansNo: From Obscurity to Oblivion: An Oral History, with him. which has just come out. We speak of the great history of the band and the challenge of getting it all down and doing it right. Casual fans and folks with NMN tattoos, getting across the humor of the band in an informative way, the thrill of the hunt for NMN esoteria, What was left out. The need to focus on the music without the visuals distracting you “The Eyes are Thieves” (and a side conversation about the nature of music and video), And of course much more DEAD BOB

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Ep371: Andrew “Falco” Falkous (mclusky, Future of the Left, christian fitness)Ep371: Andrew “Falco” Falkous (mclusky, Future of the Left, christian fitness)

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It has been 1031 days since Falco’s last appearance on Protonic Reversal and mclusky’s US tour is imminent (for real this time). So much has happened since then, let’s start with the return as a “real” band (or as real as any band is) of the mighty mclusky. Hearing protectiong! The recent double A side single released on bandcamp. New record. Venue respect! that was my brain on elves, Christian fitness. and creating songs that will not be played live, Arbiter of Sneers, stagediving, Gallagher Coats, and autozone, music journalism, slagging off bands, etc. Falco is back!

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Ep370: Zach Blair (Rise Against, GWAR, Hagfish, Only Crime, Anti-Heroes Podcast)Ep370: Zach Blair (Rise Against, GWAR, Hagfish, Only Crime, Anti-Heroes Podcast)

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Zach Blair has had an incredible career in music. He and Conan talk about finding a voice with guitar, Anti-Heroes is Zach’s podcast. Anti-Heroes is a podcast about guitar players that aren’t on the covers of the guitar magazines but who Zach thinks should be. Sounds a little familiar? Hmm. No wonder they are such kindred spirits. Hagfish remembrances (including Conan remembering what a huge fan he was of that band), GWAR antics and logistical nightmares and secret Gwar superfans. Where shredding is and isn’t important. The nostalgia Industrial complex of things like When We Were Young, but honoring the fan experience. Sonic Highways with the Foot Fighters, Joining Rise Against and bringing his own skills to it, DRAKULAS, Only Crime, and Bill Stevenson and living as a working musician in the year 2023. All that and a lot, lot more. It’s Zach Blair! 

Ep369: Steve Bartek (Oingo Boingo, Composer)Ep369: Steve Bartek (Oingo Boingo, Composer)

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Steve started off writing songs and playing flute (!) with the Strawberry Alarm Clock then joined Don Randi’s band (Wrecking Crew). All of that BEFORE Oingo Boingo. So what else?  Mystic Knights of the Oingo Boingo into Oingo Boingo, Forbidden Zone, Danny Elfman, Little Girls, Only a Lad, KROQ, Bassman vs. Jazz Chorus, The Police, the Cuphead show., Machine-Man “The Museum Mayhem of Raymond Scott” with Ego Plum, Learning important lessons in the studio, and of course collaborating with DEVO’s Gerald V. Casale.  Composing vs. Guitaring. The first of two parts!

Ep368: Gerald V. Casale (DEVO)Ep368: Gerald V. Casale (DEVO)

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Friend of the show, Gerald V. Casale returns! To talk not only about the 4-d video for the Lounge Version of Pay U Back (with Steve Bartek of Oingo Boingo and Josh Freese), but to talk about the many, many DEVO activities of the last year. US, Europe and Australia tours, a 50 years of De-Evolution box set. The Art DEVO 1973-1977 box set by Futurismo… a restoration of DEVO videos for the MOMA, the premiere of a Vice Devo Documentary directed by Chris Smith. Picking songs, the popularity of Puppet Boy on TikTok, and of course DOVE: The band of LOVE, all this and more on the latest Conan Neutron’s Protonic Reversal 

Ep367: Scott Macdonald (Arcwelder)Ep367: Scott Macdonald (Arcwelder)

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Rejoice! For the first time since 1999 there is a new Arcwelder! CONTINUE is out now. What better way to celebrate than to have the amazing drummer and co-primary vocalist Scott Macdonald on. We get into all of the details of recording it, as well as constant comparisons to another Minnestota band…. the original sound of grindy, angular riffs with huge hooks and melodies.  Tilt-a-whirl to Arcwelder (improvement), Jacket Made in Canada, PULL, Xerxes, Everest, Entropy and lots, lots more. IYKYK, first Arcwelder interview in at least a few Presidents. Let’s go!

Ep366: Matt Cronk (CNTS, Qui, Fake Legs, Cowards)Ep366: Matt Cronk (CNTS, Qui, Fake Legs, Cowards)

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Matt Cronk returns, and so has CNTS. This time you can lose the U. let’s hear some stories of what THE CRONK has been up to since Feb 2020 and he was on last. Did anything happen? Medical tragedies, musical triumphs, thoughts on controversial names and sensibilities about that and an eye to a bright future in 2024 where CNTS are concerned. Also, find out more about Fake Legs and Cowards, and… Qui is back?

Ep365: Jamie Stewart (Xiu Xiu)Ep365: Jamie Stewart (Xiu Xiu)

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Ignore Grief, is the latest album from Xiu Xiu, it came out in 2023! However, Conan’s history with the band goes way back to the first record. So, how about a relatively comprehensive album by album history? From the very beginning, all the permutations and eras to today. Along with some reasonable derivations on the way.  Covering Under Pressure with Michael Gira, the story of Xiu Xiu Plays The Music of Twin Peaks, the story behind the artwork for A Promise, reissues, album commentary tracks, art not having anything to do with the person that made it. OH NO collaborations, PAHRUMP,  Sal Mineo, Merzbow. Bottle of Rum and other dancey songs, All of it and so very much more. 

Ep364: Eddie Gobbo (Something is Waiting)Ep364: Eddie Gobbo (Something is Waiting)

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Absolutely is the new record from Chicago heavy swagger rockers Something Is Waiting. The history of SiW. Going from a 5 piece to a 3 piece. NU-ROLL, The mad scientist nature of Bill Fay Refused. sounding full vs. sounding loud, playing smaller and bigger stages. Glam sound without glam excess, noise-rock, Metal bands faking they are bigger than they are, Helmet, At.the.drive-in. Putting together Absolutely, the Something is Waiting shirt series and a song by song breakdown of the album 

Ep363: Top Records of 2023Ep363: Top Records of 2023

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Here is my annual show and list of records I really loved and spent a lot of time with. I hope you enjoy it and them. For the terminally impatient or ADD or for people that are only able to process things in the more or less unnatural format of lists. This is the list.

1. Djunah – Femina Furens
2. Marnie Stern – The Comeback Kid
3. The St. Pierre Snake Invasion – Galore
4. Elephant Rifle – Broken Water
5. Oxbow – Love’s Holiday
6. Resurrectionists – Now That We Are All Ghosts
7. Sparks – The Girl is Crying in Her Latte
8. Maple Stave – Arguments
9. JOHN – A Life Diagrammatic
10. Scream – DC Special
11. mssv – Human Reaction
12. The Tunnel – Shudder
13. Facet – facet
14. Rid of Me – Access to the Lonely
15. Young James Long – Orogeny
16. Hey Colossus – In Blood
17. Dead Bob – Life Like
18. Jolie Laide – s/t
19. Sandrider – Enveletration
20. Traindodge – The Alley Parade
21. Mr. Phylzzz – Fat Chance
22. Tunic – Wrong Dream
23. Cougars – Cougs
24. Suckling – s/t


Yes, that is 24, deal with it.

And a playlist on spotify

For everybody else, here’s the episode.

Worth mentioning that my own band, Conan Neutron & the Secret Friends, also put out a really cool split with the band Lung called ADULT PROM, that is also worth mentioning.

No video of this episode because youtube’s primary function is mindless copyright control and takedown notices on behalf of bands that would never initiate such a thing. Protonic Reversal is now and has always been a podcast first, tied to no medium of any kind. No Lords, No Masters, No Walled Gardens. But in the interest of those that would prefer to read rather than listen.

Here is a hilarious transcription of it… AI ain’t taking over just yet folks:


Every year, we do an episode.
This is my favorite records that came out in the year 2023.
And a lot of people say they find some value in it.
It’s kind of a pain to put together, honestly, if I’m telling the truth.
But I appreciate folks checking out the bands and doing it, as you might imagine.
A lot of the bands that I play end up on the show.
And that is not an accident, of course.
But it’s something that I put a lot of effort into.
So apologies to anyone that is expecting just another kick-ass episode of Patron Conversal featuring an interview of some kind.
Not what we’re doing.
Not what we’re doing right now.
Additionally…
I do need to mention that this is, I’ve expanded, it’s top 23 of 2023.
So there’s 23 different bands and records here.
And I really like all of them.
But I put out a record as well.
It’s a split LP with a band called Lung, who I love.
By my band, Conan Neutron and the Secret Friends.
If you like this show, you should really check it out.
It’s very good, if I do say so myself.
I consider putting the Lung side on.
as one of the choices that just seemed, didn’t pass the sniff test as they say.
But Adult Prom out Learning Curve Records, neutronfriends.bandcamp.com.
Go get that because we’re very proud of it and it’s a great record.
And I feel like it should be talked about a little more.
Anyway, so we’re starting things off with number 23.
This is Brett Bradford’s band, Suckling.
And they are a very cool band.
That’s Brett Bradford from the band Scratch Acid, if you’re familiar.
And this is not the self-titled record.
I did an episode with him in May, episode 333.
Three, three, three.
There is a really cool video for the song Sisyphus.
And this is Suckling.
And this is The Harvester.
Which is, they’re a band from Chicago.
Members of Big N and Salvation.
I guess they used to have a horn section.
I’m not that familiar with their history.
That was a long time ago, but just some flat out rock and roll.
Noisy, if you will.
Raucus.
Good record.
Kind of took me by surprise.
I was not super familiar.
I only ever heard the name.
But that is, yeah, Cougs.
Kind of a late entry for the list, but just goes to show you, people do their list too early, in my opinion.
For the list, but just goes to show you, people do their list too early, in my opinion.
Coming up next, Tunic.
Tunic!
This is the song Under Glass.
Episode 341, David Schellenberg of Tunic.
I had him on.
And we did a song by song of this record called Wrong Dream.
And it’s a good one.
Got to see him in Phoenix, of all places.
But yeah, David Schellenberg, Tunic.
This is Underglass.
Pontiac Grand Am.
Mr. Flies.
That’s P-H-Y-L Tripsy.
That’s right.
That is off of the Fat Chance record.
And, of course, great episode with them boys.
Danny and Clinton.
And you can find that in the archives.
That’s episode 347.
Where we go into a song by song on that one.
And that’s a good time.
They had a good year.
And a good band.
Good band.
Coming up next.
Train Dodge.
Rare talk.
These fellas, they’ve been around a bit, and I like them quite a bit.
And I had the pleasure of speaking to Jason before this record came out, episode 351.
The Alley Parade is the name of the record, and it’s their eighth one, which is pretty astounding, but it’s a great one.
So there you go.
Alley Parade.
This is Rare Talk.
Invelatration by Sandrider.
Invelatration.
That’s right.
It’s like penetration, but envelop instead.
Big fan of those dudes.
That is off of the record of the same name that also came out this year.
Love Sandrider.
Had John on.
Did not have him on for this record.
I’ll probably have him on in the future, but there is a great John Wazinski episode in the archives that
from last year, I believe.
And that’s, it doesn’t, you won’t hear about that record.
It’s episode 288, but you get to hear some pretty cool stories from Akimbo and Sandwriter both.
Cool.
So next up is Nina Nastasia, the new band that she has.
which is Jolie Laid.
And this is an awesome record.
And it’s quite the contrast to her last solo record.
But it is a different band.
So Jolie Laid, if you want to hear all about this record, Nina was on for a fantastic, in my humble opinion, episode.
Episode 359.
And this is Pacific Coast Highway.
White Stone Eyes by Dead Bob.
That’s next up on the Hip Parade.
Dead Bob, of course, the project of Mr. John Wright of a certain band called No Means No.
That’s a record called Lifelike.
And that was a really cool episode and a really, really nice surprise.
That’s probably, that is, as we learned in the classic, now classic, return to commercial episode.
Episode 336.
That is actually a No Means No record.
b-side that that was repurposed for dead bob but that whole record is very cool very interesting episode 336 you can learn all about that record and what’s up with dead bob of which there’s gonna be more dead bob stuff and i’m very excited about that that was a good time uh this next up uh former guest of the show i didn’t have him on for this record but i do really dig it hey colossus all the way over from england
This is off a record called In Blood.
Came out earlier this year.
It was not this year, but I did have two of these fellas on the show for their last record, which also was awesome.
And that was Chris and Joe from Hey Colossus.
That was back in 2021 for Dance’s Curses.
And this is off In Blood.
This is called Pearl.
Borno Man off of the Young James Long record.
Young James Long.
Orogeny.
Orogeny is the name of that one.
It’s like orogenous plus progeny, I guess.
No protonic to speak of for that, but that’s, of course, P.W.
Long of The Incredible Mule.
And I would love to talk to P.W.
Long someday.
That would be lovely.
Really cool record out on Learning Curve.
And good times.
Coming up next is Rid of Me.
This is I’m So Lonesome I Could Die.
And this is… There is a… I did an episode with Mike at Rid of Me.
I did it right before tour.
And this wasn’t even out yet.
Now it is.
It’s a good one.
Access to the Lonely is the name of the record.
And you can find that…
in the archives and not that long ago that is uh episode three five five you’ll find mike mcginnis he’s also in that fight amp lodos knife he does knife it’s records all that good stuff but this is rid of me i’m so once i could die access to lonely let’s go
Royal Ray.
Facet.
Oakland Boys.
Oakland Boys.
That’s off of the latest record, which is just self-titled.
It’s also called Facet.
F-A-C-E-T.
You can go get that on your local internet.
Good stuff.
Enjoy hearing from them Facet boys, for sure.
Let’s keep it Bay Area.
How about Shutter by The Tunnel?
That was a good record.
This is also a Learning Curve Records joint.
A lot of these are.
Makes sense of theme.
But they put out good stuff.
And these guys are from the Bay Area, and they’re great.
And I’ve had them on.
Not for this record, though.
But if you want to dig back into the archives to hear more about the tunnel and what makes them tick, episode 223.
I guess it’s been a couple years then with Jeff Wagner, Michael Jacobs, and Sam Black, all three of those fellas.
That was for their shapeshifter record.
This is off of Shudder.
This is off of Shudder, which is the new one.
This is Zealot.
Say what you got to say.
That’s right.
By MSSV, that is Stephen Hodges, Mike Watt, Mike Begetta.
I had all three of those guys on the show to talk about this record.
This is a human reaction OP.
So 362 for Hodges, the drummer, Mike Begetta, 315, and of course the legendary Mike Watt, 314.
And I think when I originally had WAD on, I don’t think the record was actually out yet, but of course it was out and toured, tested by the time I had Hodge on.
But all three of those episodes are great.
That’s a great record.
Highly recommended.
Different from the stuff with Keltner.
But yeah, lean into those three episodes if you want to know more about it.
It’s worthwhile.
Okay, how about DC Special, Scream?
The legendary punk band Scream.
I had the brothers Stahl, Pete Stahl and Fran Stahl, who also were in Wool as well.
Episode 339 for that one.
I didn’t really get a chance to listen to this record before having them on, but I knew it was going to be awesome.
And it is.
This is DC Special.
Sha-la-la.
Episode 339 to hear the gentleman Stahl Bros and hear about this one.
Ridley Scott Walker by the band John.
You can find as John times two if you are a Spotify user.
John and Johnny, right?
John Newton.
He’s episode 340.
A Life Diagrammatic is that one.
And Ray Adams is on that song as well.
lot of ruckus for a two-piece band and i gotta see them play in arizona too strangely enough but very good highly recommended to check that out episode 340 for that life diagrammatic for the uh for the record you can find out where you where you find your records at uh next up here’s another one i had the whole freaking band on for i don’t do that that often
But this is a long time coming.
This is Maplestave.
And of course, Maplestave, Chris Williams, the lead Maplestave, sure, lead Maplestave, has been on the show before.
But I’m talking about episode 345 where we had Chris Williams, Chris Rasmussen, Andy Hall and Evan Rowe, whole band, most of which resides in Durham.
And that’s a whole thing.
This is Cincinnati Hairpiece, and this is off of their awesome record, Arguments, which is fantastic.
If you want to hear all about that, again, episode 345 for the details from Maple State.
Nothing is as good as they say it is by Sparks.
That’s off of the Girls Grinder Latte.
Came out this year.
What can I say?
I love Sparks.
I would absolutely love to have the Brothers Mail on the show.
And it has yet to happen.
But I’m a huge fan of what they do.
And this is no exception.
Saw the show.
It was fantastic.
Would love to have the Sparks Brothers on.
I like that that’s a song from the perspective of a baby.
It’s already disillusioned just after being born.
It’s a very Sparks thing to do.
Next up, Resurrectionists.
This is New Winter by Milwaukee’s Resurrectionists.
Now, conflict of interest alert.
I put this record out.
So, of course, I like it.
They’re great.
And I highly recommend people take it out and give it a listen.
Episode 328.
I had Joe, Jeff, and John, three quarters of the band on.
And we talked about it.
Obviously, I’m a fan.
This is the New Winter.
And the record is Now That We Are All Ghosts.
Icy, white, and crystalline.
The legendary Oxbow.
So rad.
That’s off of Love’s Holiday that came out this year.
That’s the latest Oxbow record.
Another banger.
They’re very consistently interesting, cool.
And they’re turning around quicker now than they used to.
But if you want to hear…
I’m half about that and mostly about his latest book, Eugene S. Robinson, Return to the Show, for episode 350.
So you can hear all about Love’s Holiday as well as A Walk Across Dirty Water and Straight into Murderer’s Row, which is his new book.
And as well as everything else, Eugene’s a fascinating fella.
Lovely guest.
Love having him on.
Good times.
And yeah, Love’s Holiday.
Icy White and Crystal in the name of that one.
Next up, Dry Nurse.
As opposed to Wet Nurse, right?
Elephant Rifle.
That’s Broken Water.
And I had two of these boys on.
Clint and Brad from Elephant Rifle.
Pride of Reno.
Pride of Reno.
So this is Broken Water.
It’s the name of the record.
Dry Nurse is the name of the song.
Love these fellas.
Great record.
Also known as Learning Curve.
So there you go.
That there’s Fighting Talk by the St.
Pierre Snake Invasion.
Galore is the name of that record.
It’s a bit different than their other ones, and I like that.
I embrace the weirdness of it and the noisiness of it.
I think that that’s a great record.
Damien also plays McCluskey, of course.
You can hear all about that as well as the St.
Pierre Snake Invasion record.
Episode 330.
good times hell of a guy lots of moods lots of metallica talk on that record i’ve heard that specifically but uh yeah i i don’t know why people slept in that glory record but i guess that’s number three if we’re if we’re counting right number three out of uh 23 so good for them okay so last two arnie stern
This is a working memory.
This is off of the record, The Comeback Kid.
This is real recent.
This didn’t come out that long ago.
I love Marnie Stern.
I love this record.
I think it’s one of her best records.
And that conversation was killer, if you ask me.
Really, really interesting.
Super cool.
And I…
Love talking to Marnie Stern.
Episode 361.
Pretty recent.
Last month to check that out.
But let’s listen in here to number two.
Working memory.
Okay.
And that was Faithan.
That’s Juna.
That’s Juna.
Donna Diane.
Repeat guest of the show.
It’s been an incredible seeing Juna just give this larger skill of attention than the band had before and really connect with people because it is a hell of a record.
So Femina Forenz is the name of that record.
It’s an absolutely nuts video for Seven Winds of Sekhmet.
Donna is a uncompromising, wonderful artist.
And that’s my favorite record of 2023.
So thank you very much for listening to this playlist.
But if you want to hear a breakdown of that record, which is my favorite record of the year, the one I probably listen to the most as well, episode 325 to hear Donna Diane and I talk about deadbeat dad gods and suggestive Santas and things along those lines.
That’s it.
Those are my favorite records of 2023.
Thank you so much for listening to the show.
As always, you can find the show at ProtonicReversal.com for the archives.
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All that helps people discover the show.
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For people wondering why I don’t stream this on YouTube…
There’s some really aggressive copyright control that happens, and I just… It’s not a YouTube show.
It’s a podcast, and I put it on YouTube as well.
So I understand that might be shocking for people that they might have to either read another format or listen to it in a non…
Not on YouTube, but that’s why, in case you’re wondering.
No harm, no shade, no foul.
But yeah, patreon.com slash Protonic Reversal for the Patreon.
You can get episodes sooner, $1 a month, advanced access, that gets you there.
Helps the show, helps keep the lights on.
Appreciated in these interesting times that we live in.
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Learning Curve Records are split.
Kona Neutron and Secret Friends split with the band Lung.
Highly recommended for that as well.
Always love sharing these lists.
Tell me if any of this strikes your fancy or you find that one of these bands is your new favorite band or whatever.
Let me know on social media.
on, I think, all of the things for all I know.
And otherwise, yeah, stay safe out there and take it easy.
I’ll check you later.
Thank you.

Ep362: Stephen Hodges (mssv, Tom Waits, David Lynch, Bob Dylan, Mavis Staples)Ep362: Stephen Hodges (mssv, Tom Waits, David Lynch, Bob Dylan, Mavis Staples)

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Hodge! Not only does this complete the mssv trifecta for protonic, we get to hear all about his work on those classic Tom Waits records, playing with Bob Dylan, working with David Lynch for the Fire Walk With Me Soundtrack (the PINK ROOM!) and beyond. Dave Alvin and Dave Jaurequi, Until the End of the World and Julee Cruise, Swordfish Trombones, Rain Dogs, Fox Bat Strategy, backing Mavis Staples, Bob Dylan and of course hooking up with Mike Watt for his first opera Contemplating the Engine Room and later again with Mike Watt and Mike Baggeta. Wotta career! Wotta drummer!

Ep361: Marnie SternEp361: Marnie Stern

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THE COMEBACK KID! It isn’t just the player, it is the name of the new record. After almost 10 years, Marnie’s back. The 8G band and the difference between playing music there and anything from the world of punk rock (or whatever). A whole lot of talk of music discovery, algorithms, press cycles, and making music in the year 2023.  Playlists, Zach Hill, lost eras of music, lots of weird stuff happening all the time, aspiring to write something like a killer classic rock song, the drummer for arcade fire is a secret shredder, marnie montras, grilled cheese and Barbara Streisand. All of that and a quick run through of all of the songs on The Comeback Kid.

Ep360: Simon Bonney and Joshua Murphy (Crime & the City Solution)Ep360: Simon Bonney and Joshua Murphy (Crime & the City Solution)

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The Killer is the new record by the latest lineup of Crime & the City Solution, the band is embarking on a long tour of Europe with new member multi-instrumentalist Joshua Murphy not just playing in the band but also opening the shows with his own solo set. All this plus Simon’s tour with the late Mark Lanegan, Drawing inspiration from the lyricism and rhythm of hip-hop, Sly Stone, the journalists school of lyric writing, like Hunter Thompson, Wim Wenders, Six Bells Chime and Wings of Desire, writing the Adversary for Until The End of the World. A runaway success story with Bronwyn 45 years on, Simon’s international travels and experiences with anti-corruption in places like Papua New Guinea, living in Berlin and lots more.

Ep359: Nina Nastasia (Solo, Jolie Laide)Ep359: Nina Nastasia (Solo, Jolie Laide)

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The inimitable Nina Nastasia! Jolie Laide is the newest record,  a collaboration between Nina and Jeff MacLeod featuring songs evoking classic California Ballads, Desert Dirges and the cinema of leaving behind. However, as somebody Conan has wanted to talk to for years there is discussion of the entire Nina Nastasia catalog. Collaboration with Marissa Paternoster of Screaming Females, Jim White of the Dirty Three, Steve Albini and the complicated legacy of her former partner, manager and producer Kennan Gudjonsson. The impossible and unique heaviness of last year’s The Riderless Horse, John Peel, Dogs, Blackened Air, Run to Ruin, You Follow Me, Outlaster. All of it! Let’s listen to this distinctive, emotionally powerful singer songwriter whose work tends to be heavier than 5 dudes with downtuned guitars and full stacks, just in a different way.

Ep358: Gary Floyd (Dicks, Sister Double Happiness, Black Kali Ma, Gary Floyd Band)Ep358: Gary Floyd (Dicks, Sister Double Happiness, Black Kali Ma, Gary Floyd Band)

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Punk rock legend Gary Floyd of the legendary DICKS enters the lair of the Protonic Reversal! We talk about HATE THE POLICE, how it has sadly aged pretty well and is quite possibly one of the greatest debut singles of any punk rock band. The origin of the band in Texas (name and flyers first), and subsequently moving to San Francisco. Being an out queer punk rock front person in the days of punk rock and early hardcore. Visual art and health issues. Biscuit from Big Boys and the common cause with Dicks. David Yow and Wheelchair Epidemic (and the dildos), a surprise Butthole Surfers song title homage, Sister Double Happiness! Touring with Nirvana and Soundgarden. Oh yeah, and taking off two years to… live in a monastery? Black Kali Ma, reunion tours, San Francisco related minutia, and lots, lots more.

Ep357: Brian Cook (Botch, Russian Circles, These Arms Are Snakes, SUMAC)Ep357: Brian Cook (Botch, Russian Circles, These Arms Are Snakes, SUMAC)

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It is Brian Cook of BOTCH, Russian Circles, These Arms Are Snakes and SUMAC. Right before Botch tours the nation (well, the coasts anyway) in 2023! and SUMAC play a few shows in the midwest. Let’s talk about the why and how of a BOTCH reunion, as well as These Arms Are Snakes and why capstoning a band can be a wonderful thing. Russian Circles playing with Korn (!) and System of a Down (!), and larger concepts like: if you have to be an instagram influencer to be in a band these days, and how in the world people can find out about shows NOT the day after they happen. It’s a far ranging episode that covers a lot of ground with a guest Conan has been meaning to have on for a really long time.

Ep356: Todd Trainer (Shellac, Brick Layer Cake, Rifle Sport)Ep356: Todd Trainer (Shellac, Brick Layer Cake, Rifle Sport)

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Well hey there, it’s one of Conan Neutron’s very favorite drummers, here to give all the details of how the amazing Shellac came to be, thoughts on each and every Shellac record in depth. High cymbals, putting on a show, Italian Greyhounds, How many surveyors is enough, Dude Incredible and oh, so much more. Oh, and did you know he gives drum instructions? Give it up, everybody, for the one and only TODD TRAINER!

Ep355: Mike McGinnis (Rid of Me, Fight Amp, Low Dose, Knife Hits)Ep355: Mike McGinnis (Rid of Me, Fight Amp, Low Dose, Knife Hits)

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Access to the Lonely is the new record by Rid Of Me, and it’s a good’un! A song by song review of the Philadelphia band’s second record is in order, as well as a history of the band in general, methodology and influence, COVERS, Low Dose, Fight Amp (Wha’ happen?) and lots more. That includes Knife Hits Records as well. 

Ep354: John Baizley (Baroness)Ep354: John Baizley (Baroness)

STONE is the one new one by Baroness, no it is NOT named after a color. We get into all the albums that ARE named after colors, as well as the new one in a detailed track by track breakdown. Creating during the pandemic, the incredible YOUR BARONESS tour built off of FAN REQUESTS. The nature of creating, thin lizzy style harmony guitars, BLUE Having a record where there isn’t somebody new to the band. Sebastian and Nick Jost as a rhythm section that is always in friendly competition and lots, lots more. 

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Ep353: Robert Kassees (1001 Album Complaints, The Chop, The Beverly Crushers, Repeat After Me)Ep353: Robert Kassees (1001 Album Complaints, The Chop, The Beverly Crushers, Repeat After Me)

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Rob was on Protonic Reversal before the show hit double digits. It has BEEN awhile. Let’s hear all about his show 1001 Album Complaints, a music commentary show based on the 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die book by Robert Dimery, they discuss the episodes and decide if they are worthy of inclusion, and of course, complain. (note: Conan has been on the show!) Let’s hear all about that, as well as the other going ons of The Chop Unlimited (metal themed Arby’s record? Blue Eyed Soul Ghostbusters record coming? Star Trek: TNG themed 70s funk and rock band?!?). Beverly Crushers, Ghost Beef, all of that. 

Ep348: Mike Hard (Thrall, God Bullies, They Never Sleep)Ep348: Mike Hard (Thrall, God Bullies, They Never Sleep)

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It has been a couple years since Mike Hard was on last and quite a bit has happened. Thrall is back! But David Livingstone of God Bullies has left us, as has Johnnie Johnson III. Memories of both of those great people and players. New(!) music with Mike Hard and David Livingstone that has yet to see release. As well as the story of how Thrall has gotten back together and are playing shows again Thrall, God Bullies, the Brain Saw, Hand Over Head, They Never Sleep are all available now on Bandcamp. A freeewheeling conversation that gets into the state of the world, the nature of connection and immediacy of performance, Mike Hard’s book reviews and a lot, lot more.

Ep347: Clinton Jacob and Danny Sein (Mr. Phylzzz)Ep347: Clinton Jacob and Danny Sein (Mr. Phylzzz)

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Clinton and Danny from Mr. Phylzzz have a new one called Fat Chance, recorded at the stately Electrical Audio in Chicago. We go through a track by track of that one, as well as a lot of discussion of the very differently recorded Cancel Culture Club, the powerful advocacy of Tom Hazelmyer of Amphetamine Reptile, how Danny met Clinton, when Danny learned drums, how stand up comedy fits in with all of this and of course an upcoming tour with the mighty Melvins! All that and a whole lot more.

Ep346: Randy Randall (No Age, Hyphenate with Randy Randall Podcast)Ep346: Randy Randall (No Age, Hyphenate with Randy Randall Podcast)

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Randy has been rocking with his bandmate Dean in the band experimental punk group NO AGE for almost twenty years now sharing the stage with acts such as Foo Fighters, Pixies, Sonic Youth and Pavement! We go over the entire history of the band, including their pre-no age band Wives. The journey of the band, including records on Sub Pop and Drag City. Releasing a record during the pandemic, meeting Kevin Shields and J. Mascis, SP-202s and touring in the pandemic. All of that and the incredible debut of HYPHENATE with Randy Randall, a podcast focused on people who do and are good at more than one thing (polymaths!)

Ep345: Maple Stave (Chris Williams, Andy Hull, Evan Rowe, Chris Rasmussen)Ep345: Maple Stave (Chris Williams, Andy Hull, Evan Rowe, Chris Rasmussen)

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Durham rock band Maple Stave have a new record called ARGUMENTS and it is the first in a very, very, VERY long time. Listen to this long lived noisy/melodic/sometimes mathy rock band as they talk about bringing in Chris Rasmussen from Police Teeth and Brackets in Seattle and how that has changed the dynamic and a comprehensive breakdown of their record. Did you know Electrical Audio has a pretty good drum sound? Did you know a bunch of random “acts about Green Bay Wisconsin? Well, you can know all that and more. As we do a COMPREHENSIVE breakdown of the new record and all things Maple Stave.

Ep344: Ryan Christopher Parks (B. Hamilton)Ep344: Ryan Christopher Parks (B. Hamilton)

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The one and only Ryan Parks returns! There is some new B. Hamilton music. An ep, even! Other Lives of Magic and Wonder and Whatever, a followup to the recent I Would Give Songs Numbers Instead of Names If I could. I Can? Ok. Here I go, But Not Really. More about this ep business as well as the departure of Macy, the badass of Raj, the various lineups and records of the band and general creativity and moving forward and things like that. Nick Cave. The many moods of Fight Everything “my character” and when the next full length might actually see the light of day. Is Everything I Own is Broken a concept record? / Operation Mindcrime. Andy Shauf, etc.

Ep343: M. Martin (Coordinated Suicides, Caryatids, Pink City)Ep343: M. Martin (Coordinated Suicides, Caryatids, Pink City)

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The fabulous M. Martin FINALLY comes on Protonic Reversal. Mike started playing in bands pretty late in life, but came at it from a place of extreme epicurean interest as a fan. The path (and disography) of Pink City. The origin and creative path of Coordinated Suicides, a song by song breakdown of This Could be Heaven. The post-punk of Caryatids. All of that and lots, lots more!

Ep342: Rick Pelletier and J. Ryan (Six Finger Satellite)Ep342: Rick Pelletier and J. Ryan (Six Finger Satellite)

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The Pigeon Is the Most Popular Bird has a lush and fantastic reissue on LP by Sub Pop. We talk about that, as well as Severe Exposure, Paranormalized, Law of Ruins, Weapon, Machine Cuisine, Half Control, A Good Year for Hardness and lots more. The Moog Liberation (weighty!) live shows with just synth. Evocative imagery and unique album design, synth dance jams sitting next to noisy rock, It is a comprehensive discussion of all things Six Finger Satellite.

Ep341: David Schellenberg (tunic)Ep341: David Schellenberg (tunic)

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Envisioning tunic and switching from bass to guitar. The upcoming tour with the Johns of JOHN. The wild world of Winnipeg. Starting a band and being ready to play 100 shows a year. Keeping the song Disappointment interesting. Power chords, and the lack of them… Choosing what songs to play. A song by song run through of Wrong Dream and yes… the collaboration album with Bummer.

Does the band name make you think of stoner rock or DnD? That’s YOUR problem. This is tunic.

RIP Rick Froberg [Ep237 Rick Froberg (Hot Snakes, Drive Like Jehu, Obits, Pitchfork) Revisited)]RIP Rick Froberg [Ep237 Rick Froberg (Hot Snakes, Drive Like Jehu, Obits, Pitchfork) Revisited)]

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Rick Froberg was a titan, a legend. A fierce tornado of alley cat wail with an unparalleled artistic sensibility. I got into Drive Like Jehu the year after they broke up. Yank Crime changed my world. I was way too late to see it in person, but I did get to see it in person years later, first at the crazy thing with the organ in San Diego and later on the reunion tour proper. I saw Hot Snakes many times, first time around and reunion, it was told to me as follows:

“Oh, the Jehu guys have a new band that sounds a bit like The Wipers!”

Cool. I was all in.

Turned out to be one of the best rock bands in the modern age, NBD!

His artistic sensibility blew me away, so much so that I hassled him for years to do album art for me, finally succeeding with one of my favorite album covers of anything i’ve done with the Art of Murder. I asked if I could make a sticker and t-shirt of it, and he said he’d rather make a unique design for it… well, that took 6 years, but we ended up with the t-shirt and sticker for The Commuter. Worth the wait.

He was just a one of a kind guy.

Despite all my personal interactions, the guy made a lot of music that was important to me and people I know, and that kind of connection matters a lot. It is important for us to remember these people. All the more so when they aren’t a household name. It is on us to remember them.

We lost a very certain kind of legend with Rick Froberg and we shall not see his like again.

I’m reposting the episode of Protonic we did together along with a short-ish intro.

It begins at 11m 54s

Rick Froberg is a fantastic vocalist, rock ‘n roll front man and a HELL of a visual artist. Join in for a very free wheeling conversation while we talk about, well… all of his various bands, as well as bootleggers, Wire, Metallica, LUAU, Jehu reunions, Hot Snakes 1st and 2nd times, Obits and so many, many other things. Come on! Rick Froberg, people!

Ep340: John Newton (JOHN)Ep340: John Newton (JOHN)

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The band is called JOHN, it has two people in it NAMED John. They are from the UK and are touring the US for the very first time with tunic! Exciting! A Unique design aesthetic and a singing drummer. We talk God Speed in the National Limit, Out Here in the Fridges, Nocturnal Manoeuvres. The band getting #1 on the UK vinyl singles chart, Barry Adamson and Simon Pegg and other things A LIFE DIAGRAMMATIC. There’s a lot to talk about with these fellows and their steady and sustainable build up. and… William Morris?

Ep339: Pete and Franz Stahl (Scream, Wool)Ep339: Pete and Franz Stahl (Scream, Wool)

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A great conversation with the REAL Band of Brothers, The Stahls! Scream are about to go on tour! DC Special, and the long and winding road to it, celebrating the roots of the band while staying vital and propulsive and bringing something new to it. Joe Lally! DAVE. Writing songs remotely and collaboration, INNER EAR, oh, and a comprehensive telling of the unfairly ignored WOOL as well. Desert Sessions, Rancho De La Luna, Earthlings? Foo Fighters, J and so much more. Sit right back and hear some tales of Pete and Franz.

…and YES, they DO have an Instagram, Facebook and Twitter account. 

Ep338: Tim Green (the Fucking Champs, Nation of Ulysses)Ep338: Tim Green (the Fucking Champs, Nation of Ulysses)

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There is a reissue of the incredible record III by The Fucking Champs (or C4AM95 at the time) reissued by Drag City. Let’s go through a history of that band, as well as Louder studios. Collaborations and tours with Trans Am, recording all manner of bands, Drug Apts, Extra Man, all this plus a story about the time Tim *checks notes* played bass in the Wipers?

Ep337: Thymme Jones (Cheer-Accident)Ep337: Thymme Jones (Cheer-Accident)

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CONTEXT! it is everything. Look, there is prolific, and long lived and there is Cheer-Accident. Hear about: Compiling setlists from a career of 20+ albums, keeping things unexpected and musicially interesting as a creative auto-immune response. Booking shows in the modern world, plus the announcement of a very cool show! Filet of Nod, compilation appearances, their cover of Dream Police (that CA finished for them), Yona-Kit, Dead Rider and lots more!

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Ep336: John Wright (NoMeansNo, Dead Bob, Compressorhead, The Hanson Brothers)Ep336: John Wright (NoMeansNo, Dead Bob, Compressorhead, The Hanson Brothers)

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The mighty punk prog powerhouse drummer comes on Protonic Reversal to talk about his fantastic new band DEAD BOB a brilliant new album called Life Like that is also a band. We speak of that, as well as robot bands, hockey themed punk rock, producing Victim’s Family, and a lil’ ol band called No Means No! From Sex Mad to Body Bag to Rags and Bones, Teresa, Jello and so VERY MUCH MORE. A comprehensive look at all things WRIGHT (and WRONG)

Ep335: Meg Castellanos (Totimoshi, All Souls, Alma Sangre)Ep335: Meg Castellanos (Totimoshi, All Souls, Alma Sangre)

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The mighty Meg Castellanos of Totimoshi and All Souls comes to Protonic Reversal. Totimoshi is back and playing Caterwaul 2023, playing live for the first time in many years. Listen in as Meg and Conan go through the many eras of Totimoshi (as well as the many drummers!), lots of talk of the glory days of old San Francisco. Touring with Melvins and Helmet, Mastodon and… TOOL?!?! Alma Sangre and origin of All Souls. Flamenco! Learning bass, relentless touring, playing live now v. then, Eastside Rehearsal and so much more.

Ep334: Gareth Thomas (USA Nails)Ep334: Gareth Thomas (USA Nails)

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All the way from the UK. How WAS Your Weekend? Rocking with day jobs and the collision of those different worlds. We talk about Character Stop love for Skin Graft records the split with Psychic Graveyard. Love for Skin Graft, alternate tunings. Enduring and changing. Picking a setlist from a deep catalog and of COURSE their upcoming US tour to Caterwaul 2023! Gareth! From the mighty USA Nails.

Ep333: Brett Bradford (Scratch Acid, Suckling)Ep333: Brett Bradford (Scratch Acid, Suckling)

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There’s a new Suckling video for Sisyphus, and it features all 4 members of Scratch Acid! Protonic Reversal gets the honor of premiering it! We talk about all of that, as well as the awesome album that the video is off of. How Brett ended up playing with Win Wallace of Gorch Fock in this band and details of that nature. Also a historical jaunt to the world of Scratch Acid, who wrote Cannibal (the answer might surprise you!), Owner’s Lament! What’s up with those strings? The staying power of Scratch Acid and the GREATEST GIFT compilation. All of that and lots more.

Ep332: Dave Lombardo (Slayer, Fantômas, Dead Cross, Mr Bungle, Solo)Ep332: Dave Lombardo (Slayer, Fantômas, Dead Cross, Mr Bungle, Solo)

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Dave has a cool new album called Rites of Percussion, a drum and percussion based solo album. We speak about that, as well as rise of Slayer and those classic albums, including the timeless Reign in Blood. Rick Rubin! Tori Amos covers. Blood in the mosh pits and more. Thrill! to the The Fantômas origin story and the Director’s Cut! Dead Cross and Michael Crain’s successful fight against Cancer. Mr. Bungle and Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny Demo and so very, very much more.

Ep331: Clinton Wallace and Brad Bynum (Elephant Rifle)Ep331: Clinton Wallace and Brad Bynum (Elephant Rifle)

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The pride of Reno, NV! And their cultural ambassadors. The boys of Elephant Rifle have a brand new banger of a record called Broken Water. We go through a song by song breakdown of the whole durn thing, as well as determining whether Clinton has “gone hippie” or not, a great conversation about community building, musical cross pollination and making common cause with other genres in a smaller market.

Ep330: Damien Sayell (The St. Pierre Snake Invasion, mclusky)Ep330: Damien Sayell (The St. Pierre Snake Invasion, mclusky)

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The new TSPSI record is called GALORE. It is a bit different then the raucous fury of the first two, but very interesting and worth your time. Damien joins Conan to discuss the many moods of writing this record and the themes within (including new fatherhood), SCRAPPING the original 3rd record entirely, and a detailed song by song run through of the whole bloody affair. There’s a surprising amount of Metallica talk, but the end also features a very good accounting of how Damien came to be in mclusky and some updates on that vital band. Very good! Very good indeed.

Ep329: Mike Morasky (Steel Pole Bath Tub, Cassette Prophet)Ep329: Mike Morasky (Steel Pole Bath Tub, Cassette Prophet)

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Cassette Prophet is Mike from SPBT’s newest thing, a long percolating band and project based on an incredible mythos involving (*checks notes*) Radio Shack? In fact last time he was on it was called: “First Church of Radio Shack.” We discuss that, as well as the many varieties of Milk Cult, the No Coast Records (not fest!) reissue of early Steel Pole Bath Tub with We Own Drrrills. The stories of the major label record Scars From Falling Down and UNLISTENABLE, the doomed “final” record. 

It is the longest Part 2 after a Part 1 in the show’s history! 2 years, 11 months, 11 days excluding the end date. No wonder it is an extra long episode. ‘Let’s go, we’ve got a date with the underground’.

Ep328: Resurrectionists (Joe Cannon, Jeff Brueggeman, Gian Chivas Pogliano)Ep328: Resurrectionists (Joe Cannon, Jeff Brueggeman, Gian Chivas Pogliano)

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Resurrectionists are an awesome new (er) band from Milwaukee and they have a record called Now That We Are All Ghosts that Conan is VERY familiar with! Chamber DOOM Folk Americana. Let’s get into a song by song breakdown, find out if this band is truly clock rock or not and get into the details of what constitutes a (*checks notes*) First Annual Resurrectionists Film Festival ?

Ep326: John Darnielle (the Mountain Goats)Ep326: John Darnielle (the Mountain Goats)

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John was good enough to talk to Conan before their next big tour. What about? Pokerface! Stylistic changeups,the evolution of Mountain Goats from one guy to a large band and what the various members bring. Setlists and when a song works live or doesn’t. Songs that reveal themselves. Shania Twain? GOTHS, The Sunset Tree. Ego and sublimation of ego. The deep connection with THIS YEAR. Allegory, emotional resonance. Prairie Sun. Heretic Pride, Sequencing. D&D on film. The Getting into Knives cover. Bleed Out, Italian cop movies and uptempo songs.

Ep325: Donna Diane (Djunah)Ep325: Donna Diane (Djunah)

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It has been 184 episodes since Donna Diane has been on Protonic. A few things have happened since then. Including Djunah’s new record Femina Furens. The absolutely nuts video for Seven Winds of Sekhmet. Legs for bassist, doing everything ones self (no, really!) complex post-traumatic stress disorder, poetry and deadbeat dad Gods. It is also a VERY detailed song by song breakdown of this incredible and dense record. Including multiple suggestive Santas. Furious woman! Let’s go. 

Ep324: Lori Joseph (Acid King)Ep324: Lori Joseph (Acid King)

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Beyond Vision! An all new Acid King record for 2023. This one is a bit more psychedelic then previous records but still has the essential monolithic AK riffs you would expect. Yet, there are keyboards too. (*gasp*). It is a winding, thundering song cycle of space exploration. There’s a song by song of the new one. Also, let’s take a walk back to the days of Man’s Ruin and Sympathy for the Record Industry where Lori get her start with Acid King. Walkthroughs of the whole discography. Live at Roadburn, Middle of Nowhere, Center of Everywhere, III, Free (and Clearlight), Busse Woods, Down With the Crown, Zoroaster. 

Ep323: Russell Simins (Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, S-E-R-V-I-C-E, Crunt)Ep323: Russell Simins (Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, S-E-R-V-I-C-E, Crunt)

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DANG! it’s the drum man for the BLUUUUUUES EXPLOOOOOSSSION. Who also happens to be half of the creative braintrust of the mighty SERVICE (Whose: DRAG ME was named best record of 2022 by this show!). A detailed history of JSBX, album by album… starting from the very beginning. R.L. Burnside! Playing with Tom Waits. Butter 08, production, JUST FRED, Pranking Weird Al with Yoko Ono. And of course the origin story of S-E-R-V-I-C-E one of the best rock bands on the planet. You want in-depth? You got it… punk!

Ep322: Rose Marshack (Poster Children, Salaryman, Author)Ep322: Rose Marshack (Poster Children, Salaryman, Author)

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The incredible Rose Marshack of Poster Children has written a book called: Play Like a Man: My Life In Poster Children. Join us as we discuss music as community, the nuts, bolts and dollars and cents of making music. Surviving the 90s gold rush on a major label. Creative ventures. Origin stories, tour reports, computers, the indie code of ethics, the complicated expectations of rocking while a woman, teaching, zen, martial arts, Mercy Rule, Ian Mackaye and so much more. It is a great conversation and a great book. 

Ep321: Ivan Julian (Richard Hell and the Voidoids, Shriekback, Matthew Sweet)Ep321: Ivan Julian (Richard Hell and the Voidoids, Shriekback, Matthew Sweet)

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Ivan has a new record called Swing Your Lanterns. Starting in live performance with the Foundations (Build Me Up Buttercup) with touring 101, starting in with Richard Hell and the Voidoids in 70s New York. Rehearsing 3 or 4 songs for months for the first ep, Black Generation. Liars Beware! The different sounds and bands of that NY scene and whoever sells more records gets written about more. The story of the Outsets, Giorgio Gomelsky and Bob Clearmountain. Working without a net. Working with Matthew Sweet, touring with Shriekback. All that and so much more, a lifetime of incredible music.

Ep320: Kevin Rutmanis (Hepa.Titus, Cows, Melvins, Tomahawk)Ep320: Kevin Rutmanis (Hepa.Titus, Cows, Melvins, Tomahawk)

Kevin is back and he has TWO new records! Uneat, the latest from Hepa.Titus. And Crackpot Whorehead a collaboration with Trevor Dunn. The Bass V – I. A brief history of hepa.titus, and remote collaborations. Selected Melvins memories. The joy of grabbing weird gear and doing cool things with it.  All that and a living history of Cows records (or whatever Kevin remembers of them!). 

Also, don’t miss episode Ep144 when Kevin was last on THREE YEARS AGO! 

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Ep319: Martin Bisi (Producer, Engineer, Martin Bisi Band)Ep319: Martin Bisi (Producer, Engineer, Martin Bisi Band)

The pride of Gowanus comes on Protonic Reversal. Martin documented all the no waves bands, ran a studio with Bill Laswell before running it himself. Recorded Herbie Hancock’s ROCKIT (!), as well as Ex-Models, Lydia Lunch… Sonic Youth Bad Moon Rising and EVOL. J.G. Thirlwell. All of that, an incredible career and incredible ongoing presence in the New York community and beyond. Who else randomly stumbles upon Brian Eno outtakes? That’s right… Martin Bisi.  Ohh yeah, he also has a great new record of his own called FERAL MYTHS

Ep318: Mario Lalli (Fatso Jetson, Mario Lalli and the Rubber Snake Charmers, Yawning Man, Across The River, Queens of the Stone Age)Ep318: Mario Lalli (Fatso Jetson, Mario Lalli and the Rubber Snake Charmers, Yawning Man, Across The River, Queens of the Stone Age)

Boomer, The godfather of desert rock! Early days with Black Flag, Redd Kross and Saccharine Trust. Restaurants and riffs. The incredible Tony Tornay. Introducing: The free and unique night to night music of the Rubber Snake Charmers. The origins of the incredible Fatso Jetso. Dropping into the desert sessions to do “millionaire” (later to become a Queens of the Stone Age song). Generators and the responsibility of running a restaurant. Live from Total Annihilation.  Legends of the Desert split with Dali’s Llama! It is the legend, Mario Lalli. 

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Ep317: Top Records of 2022Ep317: Top Records of 2022

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It is time for the yearly countdown of some of my favorite records of 2022. I can’t include all of them and taste is subjective, but hopefully you can find some gems here that you either were not aware of or have been meaning to check out. And for those that don’t care about the episode and just want lists, here’s that too. (also in playlist form) Bandname – Song – Album, and deep links to their respective episode (where appropriate)

1. SERVICE – Hey – Drag Me 

2. Lung – Sick – Let it Be Gone 

3. Helms Alee – Mouth Thinker – Keep This Be The Way (ep268

4. Chat Pile – Pamela – God’s Country (ep305)

5. Kal Marks – Ovation – My Name is Hell (ep302)

6. Hammered Hulls – Rights and Reproduction – Careening  (ep316)

7. Sloan – Keep Your Name Alive – Steady 

8. Paul Roessler – Maker – The Turning of the Bright World (ep312)

9. Plosivs – Hit the Breaks – Plosivs 

10. Melvins – My Discomfort is Radiant – Bad Mood Rising 

11. Dälek – A Heretic’s Inheritence – Precipice (ep293)

12. Savak – Empathy – Human Error / Human Delight (ep292) 

13. Toshi Kasai – Perpetual Manufactory – Based on True Stories (ep306)

14. Mr Phylzzz – Pretend Friends – Cancel Culture Club 

15. Mike Baggetta / Mike Watt / Jim Keltner – Fake Break – Everywhen We Go (ep314, ep315)

16. The Art Gray Noizz Quintent – Here’s Johnny – The Art Gray Noizz Quintent (ep294)

17. A Deer A Horse – Bitter – Grind (ep290)

18. Microwaves – Your Dumb Guts – Discomfiture Atlas (ep308)

19. Coordinated Suicides – Mickey Disney Lover – This Could Be Heaven  

20. DEVO’s Gerald V. Casale – The Invisible Man – The Invisible Man ep (ep313)

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Ep316: Alec Mackaye (Hammered Hulls, The Warmers, Ignition)Ep316: Alec Mackaye (Hammered Hulls, The Warmers, Ignition)

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Hammered Hulls! A new-ish band with a GREAT record called Careening. Singer and frontman Alec Mackaye comes on protonic reversal and goes into a DETAILED song by song of this incredible record, as well as talk of The Warmers, general songwriting, song lyric interpretations as jumping off points and writing prompts for the audience, inspiration and coming back to music and live performance with awesome likeminded collaborators and coming up with something very special. 

Ep315: Mike Baggetta (mssv, Mike Baggetta / Mike Watt / Jim Keltner, solo)Ep315: Mike Baggetta (mssv, Mike Baggetta / Mike Watt / Jim Keltner, solo)

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Everywhen We Go, that’s the new record by Mike Baggetta / Jim Keltner / Mike Watt is now out! It’s the latest record from a loose limbed collaboration by the iconic experimental guitarist, the mighty Minutemen bass man and the incredible session drummer who has played with everybody. So what’s the difference between that and MSSV (main STEAM stop valve)? Well Stephen Hodges for one, who played with Tom Waits and many others. We talk about the differences, Mike’s background and history with music and collaboration. Wall of Flowers and Live Flowers, creative process, tones and pedals and a song by song breakdown of the new record. Hey, Watt was just on talking about that too, it’s like the Rashomon effect.

Ep314: Mike Watt (mssv, Minutemen, fIREHOSE, the Stooges, Flipper, solo, Mike Baggetta / Jim Keltner / Mike Watt)Ep314: Mike Watt (mssv, Minutemen, fIREHOSE, the Stooges, Flipper, solo, Mike Baggetta / Jim Keltner / Mike Watt)

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Surprise! It is the one and only Mr. Mike Watt. He’s got a new record with Mike Beggata and Jim Keltner called Everywhen We Go. Hot off the presses! We discuss that (and the difference between mssv!) as well as the Watt from Pedro show, Flipper, Iggy, erasing ageism in movement music, knee blow outs, remote tracking and Orson Welles with a pair of chili dogs. Spiel time, baby! Let’s go!

Ep313: Gerald V. Casale (DEVO)Ep313: Gerald V. Casale (DEVO)

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The unmistakable Gerald V. Casale of DEVO RETURNS! He has new music. The Invisible Man ep, along with a reissue of the Jihad Jerry & the Evildoers material under his own name. Fantastic videos for I’m Gonna Pay U Back and The Invisible Man. Collaboration with Steve Bartek of Oingo Boingo and Josh Freese and more. Of COURSE, lots of DEVO talk as well. Smart Patrol/Mr. DNA, Meeting David Lynch and Ronnie Rocket. Human Highway and Neil Young, the wild antics of Iggy Pop. 9/11 stand-up comedy and lots, lots more! 

Ep159: Jerry Casale. Ep175: Jerry Casale Part 2. Something for Everybody – 10 Year song by song overview 

Ep312: Paul Roessler (The Screamers, 45 Grave, Nervous Gender, Nina Hagen, Twisted Roots, Solo, Producer)Ep312: Paul Roessler (The Screamers, 45 Grave, Nervous Gender, Nina Hagen, Twisted Roots, Solo, Producer)

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The great Paul Roessler! He’s recently released The Turning of the Bright World, a new solo record. Lots of talk about the iconic and legendary band The Screamers who never recorded a proper record but are legends of punk rock and progenitors of “synth punk” and still a hot topic to this day, Twisted Roots, Nervous Gender, working (and touring!) with Nina Hagen, Don Bolles and Pat Smear, Dez Cadena, Playing with Dead Kennedys, Kitten Robot studios, Mike Watt. Touring, performance, spectacle! Paul!

Ep311: John Schmersal (Brainiac, Enon, Vertical Scratchers, Crooks on Tape)Ep311: John Schmersal (Brainiac, Enon, Vertical Scratchers, Crooks on Tape)

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Brainiac touring in 2023? Amazing! Let’s get the full details from the guitar man himself, how a Brainiac tour can (and is) happening without the great Timmy Taylor (RIP). Fresh off a tour with the band Caribou, John breaks it down. How about a rundown of the catalog too? Yeah? Sound good. The Attic Tapes and Live show? Also cool. How about an EXCLUSIVE SURPRISE?! Predator Nominate ep, some of the last stuff Brainiac was working on getting an official release, news broken on THIS show! Come all ye Cracked machines and Bonsai Superstars.

Ep310: Nick Sakes (Upright Forms, Colossamite, Dazzling Killmen, Sicbay)Ep310: Nick Sakes (Upright Forms, Colossamite, Dazzling Killmen, Sicbay)

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Upright Forms are a new band! One of their first recordings is on the Sounds to Make You Shudder Skin Graft comp. Conan knows the three members from very different bands and circles. The Upright Forms origins are discussed as well as indepth look at Dazzling Killmen (Face of collapse! Jazz guys and wildcard), Collossamite (members of Deerhoof now), Sicbay! and more. It is an in-depth discussion with a unique and influential player and musician through his entire journey in his music up to today.

Ep309: Mark Davies (Thinking Fellers Union Local 282)Ep309: Mark Davies (Thinking Fellers Union Local 282)

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Reissues of Strangers From the Universe and Admonishing the Bishops! Yes, it is true. Bulbous Monocle is doing just that. What better time to go over the entire storied and varied TFUL282 catalog with a fine tooth comb? A bit about each record, baroque instruments making weird noises. Optigans! Mother of All Saints! The Crowded Diaper and so much more. Did you know SF used to be an affordable place to make music and create? Let’s talk to Mark Davies and find out all about it. 

Ep308: microwaves (Dave Kuzy, John Roman, Adam Macgregor)Ep308: microwaves (Dave Kuzy, John Roman, Adam Macgregor)

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The mighty men of MICROWAVES! This incredibly long lived band of uncompromising relentlessly creative Pittsburgh noiseniks have a new one called Discomfiture Atlas, a record with TWO lineups. One of which is with previous bassplayer Steve Moore of Zombi fame. A wild time!

Or as Dave says: “We talk about the songs on the new record in detail.  Adam eats key lime pie.  I espouse a radical theory about Spinal Tap.  John makes crinkling noises.”

Ep307: Guy Picciotto (fugazi)Ep307: Guy Picciotto (fugazi)

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Well then! How about a comprehensive talk with the fantastic and innovative guitarist and singer? A deep and far ranging conversation on models of operation, freedom and creativity as well as relatively comprehensive deep dives through all of all of the fugazi catalog? Strap in everybody!

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Ep306: Toshi Kasai (Producer, Engineer, Musician)Ep306: Toshi Kasai (Producer, Engineer, Musician)

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Toshi is the renowned producer of bands like Melvins, Tool and so much more. He’s not only the master mind of the incredible Plan D, but has a fantastic new record called Based on True Stories, that is full of gypsy jazz, backmasking, filters and glitches but is… mostly acoustic? We take a deep song-by-song dive into that as well as what bands do and don’t get right about recording, writing and everything else and a bit of insight about how somebody who works so hard on the creativity others finds time and space to innovate himself.

Ep305: Chat PileEp305: Chat Pile

What a treat! All four members of Oklahoma City Noise-rock/sludge superstars come on Protonic Reversal to talk about their awesome new record God’s Country in-depth. An in-depth song by song discussion! Along with talk of logos, art direction, the Oklahoma scene and a surprising amount of 90s swing revival discourse. 

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Ep304: Scott Picco (Almanac Man, Bear Claw, Rented Rooms)Ep304: Scott Picco (Almanac Man, Bear Claw, Rented Rooms)

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Almanac Man is a great newer band from Denver, with a great new record called For Your Cause. Song by song breakdown of that record, as well as a comprehensive overview of the long lived, 2-bass and drums Chicago trio Bear Claw. Chris Metcalf of Life and Times and playing in Rented Rooms and lots, lots more. 

Ep303: Dan Kubinski (Die Kreuzen, DeadFinger)Ep303: Dan Kubinski (Die Kreuzen, DeadFinger)

The mighty Die Kreuzen vocalist and frontman has a brand new dark acoustic duo called DeadFinger. Learn all about that here, as well as a detailed run through of the entire history of Die Kreuzen, key moments and records, what came afterwards and lots more. Reunions, shouting out newer bands, post-Die Kreuzen activities, The Crosses (a band playing the first self titled Die Kreuzen LP front to back, faves from Oct File & originals!) and fans spanning generations.

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Ep302: Carl Shane (Kal Marks)Ep302: Carl Shane (Kal Marks)

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Tom Waits, Harvey Milk, Melvins, Captain Beefheart and more! Turning a solo project into a band and into the same band but with a different lineup. One guitar vs. two guitars. The story of Kal Marks coming back during COVID. The story of playing with Kowloon Walled City, Gentrification and not caring about what is cool. A DETAILED song-by-song walk through of the new record: My Name is Hell, available at Exploding in Sound Records

Ep301: Stephen Egerton (Descendents, ALL)Ep301: Stephen Egerton (Descendents, ALL)

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Cool! It’s the guitar man from the mighty Descendents and ALL (and FLAG!). Listen in as Stephen and Conan talk about: bringing the prog to the downstrokes, growing up in a musical family, wireless or wired (never knobs), ALL (the album and the band), Everything Sucks, 9th and Walnut, oh yeah, and some dude wore a t-shirt too.

Ep300: Conan Neutron answers YOUR questions!Ep300: Conan Neutron answers YOUR questions!

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For episode 300, it was time for something COMPLETELY different.
Don’t worry, it isn’t only: “When are you going to have _ on?” or “How is babby formed?”. It’s a nice blend of IMs, e-mails and live comments all answered in a live environment.

Ep299: Mike Kunka (godheadSilo, Enemymine, Dead Low Tide, Smoke and Smoke) PT.2Ep299: Mike Kunka (godheadSilo, Enemymine, Dead Low Tide, Smoke and Smoke) PT.2

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Part 2 of the epic episode with Mike Kunka! (Part 1 is here) We talk about the later days of godheadSilo, Enemymine, Dead Low Tide, Smoke and Smoke and what exactly the deal was with that reunion tour in the middle of winter a few years back. 

https://open.spotify.com/episode/52hEYKlBgLgNJf44e6qkhr?si=9be5355cfcda4135

Ep298: Mike Kunka (godheadSilo, Enemymine Dead Low Tide, Smoke and Smoke) PT.1Ep298: Mike Kunka (godheadSilo, Enemymine Dead Low Tide, Smoke and Smoke) PT.1

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Mike Kunka is an American bass guitarist best known as a member of the group godheadSilo. He has also been a member of the groups Dead Low Tide, Smoke and Smoke and Enemymine, based out of Washington state. All that and Three Men and a Baby with Melvins. We talk about… all of that! And lots more. Guardians of the Threshold! this is part 1 of a 2 part episode.  (Editor’s note… Mike’s connection is not always the best, FYI)

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3kfTzE1PPMAEzbnxU1sSGk?si=4ad48a9462f84836

Ep297: Jem Ponussamy (DEAD)Ep297: Jem Ponussamy (DEAD)

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Jem of the mighty DEAD (Australia) returns to Protonic Reversal to talk about re-pressing Raving Drooling, releasing UP YOURS, We Grit Our Teeth, CLUB DEAD, multiple versions of the band and lots, lots more. (not touring though!)

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3xHYwRu1g7l8dJ6Jdf7WQV?si=b02c634d768a4fd0

Ep296: Damon Che (Don Caballero)Ep296: Damon Che (Don Caballero)

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Wait, what?! That’s right, it is the most comprehensive breakdown of all things Don Cab you are likely to hear. Album by album, For Respect to American Don, and even World Class Listening Problem and Punkgasm. The art on 2 and What Burns. Using technology to solve problems. Is he playing? What happened with Bellini? All that and and so much more answered here.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2kc4I5CQuhHKYT7BW1kV8C?si=d075b0384cd2451f

Ep295: Stephen DePace (Flipper)Ep295: Stephen DePace (Flipper)

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A comprehensive history of the band Flipper from the genre defining band’s mighty drummer! The positivity of LIFE, the synare of Sex Bomb and the sax solos. Public Flipper Limited, Gone Fishin’, Blow’n Chunks, vs. Studio 54 (Really!), Being Rick Rubin’s favorite band, losing Will Shatter, Krist Noviselic (!) and David Yow (!), joining the group. Who exactly is Fletcher from the Garden? All of this and SO MUCH MORE!

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5aSEbmrFeeVRBpT4BTqd2V?si=9a218d3a8ef942ab

Ep294: Stu Spasm (Lubricated Goat, the Art Gray Noizz Quintet)Ep294: Stu Spasm (Lubricated Goat, the Art Gray Noizz Quintet)

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Lubricated Goat! CRUNT! the Art Gray Noizz Quintet! Stu Spasm (aka: Stu Gray) is a legend in underground music. Find out who in Lubricated Goat liked Motley Crue a little too much, playing with Charles Tolnay and Guy Maddison (respectively!), Playing naked on television, getting stabbed in Berlin and various activities in between, CRUNT, the evolution and reveal of The Art Gray Noizz Quintent. The live record (recorded just as lockdown hit). Lydia Lunch and tons, tons more. Is it the definitive Stu Spasm interview? It. just. might. be.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2vvTE60uhjg5aw1yNG4zsR?si=2ed92b823bbd4faf

Ep293: Will Brooks (Dälek)Ep293: Will Brooks (Dälek)

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Well, well, well! It’s Will Brooks of Dälek, coming in hot with a fantastic new record called Precipice. One that features a guest appearance by young up and comer Adam Jones of (*checks notes*) TOOL, even. Listen in as Will and Conan talk about sharing the stage with everybody from Godflesh to Prince Paul, playing for yourself, the MEDITATIONS series and streaming on twitch, redoing the entire record when COVID hit, collaborations with FAUST, ALL THAT and a song by song walkthrough of Precipice

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2T2gM0WzQgXL1s0sUUqfy5?si=a7e9da7a16eb4c14

Ep292: Sohrab Habibion and Michael Jaworski (SAVAK)Ep292: Sohrab Habibion and Michael Jaworski (SAVAK)

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SAVAK have a new record, their 5th! Human Error/Human Delight, it’s a great rocker and has a wild array of bass players, just like the band. It’s been 192 episodes since Sohrab was last on and 208 since it was a full episode, and Michael Jaworski has NEVER been on. Here that is finally rectified as we do a song-by-song of Human Error/Human Delight, and also talk about carrying on as a band as real life responsibilities and adulthood happen, and many other hilarious topics. NO BLUES! NO JAZZ! NO ARBITRARY BORDERS!

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5PxqIkpDBhn5ez5MCQH6vZ?si=9e24aec5a51b4a69

Ep291: Protonic Reversal / Movie Night Extravaganza X’over: This Is Spinal Tap w/ Gerald V. Casale (DEVO)Ep291: Protonic Reversal / Movie Night Extravaganza X’over: This Is Spinal Tap w/ Gerald V. Casale (DEVO)

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THIS CROSSOVER GOES TO 11! That’s right, it is the the classic (and endlessly quotable) Rob Reiner Mockumentary. With a round table discussion that includes Gerald V. Casale of DEVO, Brian Teasley (Birdstuff) of Man…or Astro-Man?/Polyphonic Spree and St. Vincent and so much more! The first ever crossover between Conan Neutron’s Protonic Reversal and Movie Night Extravaganza. “It’s such a fine line between stupid, and uh…clever.”

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0bXJTnUuaTW4jQwjmrGJ6p?si=45f26b10ba8b4b10

Ep290: Angela Phillips and Dylan Teggart (A Deer A Horse)Ep290: Angela Phillips and Dylan Teggart (A Deer A Horse)

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Angela and Dylan are back… after 102 episodes and a full year to talk about their new record GRIND. Thoughts on discussion on touring in the age of COVID, continuing on without Rebecca. Bringing in new folks to the band. What adornments and embellishments an extra year (!) of sitting with a record provides, why trying too hard to be what is wanted in the moment is bound for unhappiness and a freewheeling breakdown of each of the new album’s songs.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7A0z2AbQCSiG0B1GVYVQyp?si=3887e78f5afe407f

Ep289: Ian Miller (Kowloon Walled City)Ep289: Ian Miller (Kowloon Walled City)

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Ian Miller is 1/4 of the incredible and iconic Kowloon Walled City. They have a (relatively) new record out and are doing tour dates on the East Coast and Rust Belt, in some cases for the very first time. That is discussed, as well as the origin and story behind (*deep breath*) Interesting Times Gang! Strangelight! No Lights! Less Art! Truxton! The strange story of Puig Destroyer! Productive Outs! Rigs of Dad Podcast! Which songs are a game of chicken with the drummer. And a song by song run through of Piecework. PHEW!

About time!

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3WGnUHzLeCaYyM5Z58sCAj?si=20f1e65538cb4eac

Ep288: Jon Weisnewski (Akimbo, Sandrider)Ep288: Jon Weisnewski (Akimbo, Sandrider)

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That’s right, it’s Conan’s old friend the mighty Jon Weisnewski, host of the excellent TOMORROW WE DIE!  An podcast about touring under adverse conditions that is probably a cousin to Protonic Reversal. Also, the mighty AKIMBO, SANDRIDER and now… NUCLEAR DUDES.

Are you looking for a comprehensive history of the Akimbo Discography? How about the origin of Sandrider? How about exactly what the heck is a Nuclear Dude and why should you care? How about ALL THAT, Alternative Tentacles, the perils of trying to record two albums at the same time and SO. MUCH. MORE. ok?

OK! 

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5h3X6fNieKWXIoI8ylZzCk?si=711035619d6b4246

Ep287: Lenny Kaye (Patti Smith Group, Nuggets, Author)Ep287: Lenny Kaye (Patti Smith Group, Nuggets, Author)

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Wow! It’s the amazing Lenny Kaye! Guitarist, songwriter, Creator of NUGGETS and Author! His new book: “Lightning Striking: Ten Transformative Moments in Rock and Roll.” and it is AWESOME. Tales of creating songs with Patti and beyond. Horses! Easter! Radio Ethopia! and records made in recent decades soon. Rocking, writing, being a critic, a curator and providing a spotlight on the things you love. Because the Night. It’s a great talk with the Rockenteur, one and only… Mr. Lenny Kaye!

https://open.spotify.com/episode/19OKpO3okPx95Mn8mKh9Be?si=adbc22b439bf4d5d

Ep286: Jarboe (Swans, Solo, World of Skin)Ep286: Jarboe (Swans, Solo, World of Skin)

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Wow! It is THE LIVING JARBOE, artist, singer, musician and ICON. Coming at last to Protonic Reversal to talk about the reissue, remaster and reimagining of the Skin/World of Skin record “blood, women, roses” being reborn as Jarboe – Skin, Blood, Women, Roses. CRY ME A RIVER, Eat or sleep tour, Hauling heavy vintage keyboards up and down stairs (and reloading sounds during power outages), BIRTHRIGHT and Swans, living in very dangerous environments, visual art, and making unique things. Only Lovers Left Alive and Jozef van Wissem.  All that and collaborations with Jesu and Neurosis, Helen Money and Kris Force. People! It’s Jarboe!

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4M1NAqLewc67lg0eFsTYXP?si=5d023de63ac64491