Protonic Reversal

  • Ep107: Hank Donovan (Magpies, Rattlesnake Cable Company)

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    12/7 Hank Donovan

    Hey, everybody! Welcome to another episode of Protonic Reversal! Today’s guest on the phone with Conan and Josh is Hank Donovan, of Magpies and Rattlesnake cables. Our discussion includes such topics as:

    -New drummer!
    -Finding musicians in a small city
    -a college-dependent scene
    -Montana DIY
    -Scene commitment
    -Meal math
    -Gear discovery problems
    -Joining a three piece in progress
    -Guitar influences
    -Being a listener vs. listening as a musician
    -Unintentionally starting a cable company
    -Making cables cool, making something that lasts
    -the Rattlesnake brand
    -Not trying to hang out
    -Tim Midyett’s Travis Bean baritone
    -Hank’s Bean journey
    -Schwinn Freestyle…

  • Ep106: Keith Brammer (Die Kreuzen)

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    Hail hail! Welcome to the Home of the Protonic Reversal. Today’s episode features another great in-studio guest (man, we’ve been lucky with these!) Keith Brammer, from Die Kreuzen, Wreck, Crime and Judy, et cetera! This wide ranging conversation touches upon such topics as:

    -The weird novelty of listening to one’s own music
    -Production quality and choices (You can do anything, and THAT’S what you want?)
    -Punk as an encompassing thing vs. an ossified set of rules
    -Bands whose sound indicated their record collection
    -Solidifying songs in practice vs. at shows
    -“I guess I can do that one and not feel physically ill.”
    -Starting with no preconcieved notion of the “rules”
    -Working at the top of your skill level, whatever it might be
    -“A wide swath of nonsense and garbage” back then, just like now
    -Touring and booking shows is definitely better with cell phones
    -Lee Ving is the nicest
    -The incredibly bad logic of throwing a shoe at a band
    -Recognizing the opportunity for a situation that will make a great story
    -Telling the Rick Nielsen story again (deal with it)
    -“Gone Away” as the most realized DK song
    -Daydream Nation doesn’t entirely lend itself to being played live
    -The celebrated utility of a dry erase board in the practice space
    -Doing useless demos for Mechanic Records
    -Wasting the money of major labels
    -Wreck, and the Carnival Strippers
    -Picking a movie for your song to be in: PCU vs. Speed
    -Cover choices
    -All roads lead to D.O.A.
    -Discovering bands way later than everyone else
    -Picking bands to open the reunion shows, and doing the reunion shows in general
    -Tom Hazlemeyer’s Bash
    -Creating something that didn’t exist
    -How just being able to fuck with people’s heads is extremely rewarding…

  • Tim Midyett - SilkwormTim Midyett - Silkworm

    Ep105: Tim Midyett (Silkworm, Bottomless Pit, Mint Mile)

    Tim Midyett - Silkworm

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    Good hello, and welcome to another episode of Protonic Reversal! Today’s EXTENDED episode features our in-studio guest, Tim Midyett (of Mint Mile, Bottomless Pit, Silkworm etc.) Our wide-ranging discussion features topics like:

    -the Gerry Todd Show
    -The Dancing Imperative
    -12-string baritone guitars
    -baritones: not guitars, not basses
    -Tablecloth lint
    -not actually sounding like Pavement or much of anything else
    -100% vibe
    -a band in a room, playing together at the same time
    -the combination of people can be more than the sum of the parts
    -solo vs. band
    -Tim’s Electric Banjo Jamboree
    -the incidental concept record: Firewater
    -dealing with bullshit in various ways
    -Missoula, MT
    -Matador Records
    -delineating between projects
    -Justin the excellent pedal steel player
    -Not interfering with what the band brings to the songs
    -getting pickier
    -taking all the most rocking songs off the album
    -Steve Albini’s instincts are the opposite of commercial
    -Modesto is terrible
    -coming from the big city with real amps
    -it’s better to be able to find your community with the internet than it was before, pretty much
    -Seattle in 1991
    -no offense to Cat Butt
    -the touring years
    -easing back on touring to keep the band alive
    -The Bottomless Pit of Partying
    -learning bass via post-punk
    -abstract album cover design indicating the contents
    -New Order dealing with being of Joy Division
    -putting the off topic song on the EP that’s otherwise all about fucking
    -the three good clubs in the world
    -breaking up the band
    -changing strings
    -how Andy fixed Doug Martsch’s guitar
    -Midyett Rub and Tim’s turkey tips
    -the multiple Silkworm tribute bands and the amazing skills of Chris, Chris and Evan
    -if no one cared when you started, no one will care if you don’t stop
    -a weird sloppy mix of Neil Young and speed metal
    -”Man, that’s great, good for me.”…

  • Ep104: Nick Skrobisz - MulticultEp104: Nick Skrobisz - Multicult

    Ep104: Nick Skrobisz (Multicult)

    Ep104: Nick Skrobisz - Multicult

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    (stream and download – Episode 104)Weeeeeeeeeelllllllllllll howdy, folks! It’s time for another groovy installment of Protonic Reversal! In today’s episode, Conan and Josh chat with Nick Skrobisz of the kickass Baltimore band Multicult. Topics include, but are not limited to:

    -Baltimore scene report
    -the Oakland van break-in
    -Katamari Damacy-ing the equipment (a step up from Tetris-ing)
    -Gear as a filler subject
    -the elegance of early Danzig
    -Good band names
    -Indicative artwork
    -Music that doesn’t cater to the audience
    -Getting one over on the world
    -Delivering a series of feelings
    -No, really, Baltimore scene report
    -DC’s proximity effect
    -If ya get hungry…
    -Tour advice/booking plot

  • Ep101: Lindsey Charles (The Cell Phones)

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    It’s Episode #101 of Protonic Reversal! Your hosts, Conan and Josh, are in a sour mood, due to living in the world. But never fear, a phone call with Lindsey Charles of the Cell Phones cures what ails them! After some discussion about Refused (overrated? Or rated just right?) and the fascinating concept of changing a band’s structure by adding in another ill-fitting member out of rock history.

    Topics in this interview include:

    -Lindsey’s talented brother
    -The curse of buying more than you intended during any Target visit
    -Everyone loving the Cell Phones’ “West Coast”
    -People connecting differently to the same song
    -Why don’t we discuss pregnancy?
    -Wielding emotions like a weapon
    -Playing for unexpecting crowds
    -The puzzle of songwriting
    -Selling the album title
    -Impressing one’s dad
    -53% (Overrun)
    -It’s not a joke, sometimes
    -the Kool Aid Man full of period blood
    -Mismatched bookings
    -Well-matched bookings
    -Encounters with Lesley Gore
    -The outlet of performance

    By the end of the episode, Conan and Josh are on Cloud Nine. We think you will be, too!c

    The Cell Phones – West Coast
    The Cell Phones – You Make Me Say No
    The Cell Phones – 53% (Overrun)
    Shellac – The End of Radio (Closing Theme)

  • Ep099: Rick Sims (Didjits, Gaza Strippers)

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    (stream and download – Episode 99)

    Yes, yes! It’s true, Conan and Josh talk to the one and only Rick Sims of the mighty Didjits. It’s in the second hour, so strap in for some first rate entertainment or music or get that fast forward button ready.
    -Just Fred (the record and the dude)
    -The Cassette Revival
    -The Killer + Tony Clifton
    -Time Bomb Tom
    -Touch & Go 25
    -Didjits Reunion(s)
    -Solos and quick hooks.
    -The Gaza Strippers as a 4 course meal
    -Writing Songs for the Supersuckers Record
    -The Lee Harvey Oswald Band are assholes.
    -Rey Wesham
    -The Offspring
    -Sound Design for Theatre
    Songs played:

    Fred Schneider – Whip
    Didjits – (Mama Had A) Skull Baby
    Didjits – Max Wedge
    Piper – Who’s Your Boyfriend
    Mr. Bungle – The Stroke
    Lee Harvey Oswald Band – Surrender Earthlings
    Didjits – Under the Christmas Fish

    Didjits – Plate in My Head
    Supersuckers – Born with a Tail
    Fred Schneider – Bulldozer

    Shellac – The End of Radio (Closing Theme)

  • Ep098: Eugene Robinson (Oxbow, Whipping Boy, Sal Mineo)

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    What if Yella from NWA sang the hit of Yellow the band (of “Oh YEAAAAAAH!” fame), that and a few other things before Conan and Josh dive right into the remarkable Eugene Robinson and his many bands, projects, sojourns and creative exploits. Eugene conducts himself with alacrity and poise and a good time is had by all!

    -The origins of Sal Mineo (The band)
    -Making art worth a good God damn
    -spending 12 hours in France and playing a show
    -not playing where you oughtn’t
    -Advocating the encyclopedia of the voice.
    -Singing what your soul calls out
    -Old HC fellas that don’t really “get” Oxbow.
    -Charating a musical course with no reference points
    -Shit talkers being good people to have around / speaking honestly
    -Getting hit on by one’s idols.
    -the equivalent of automatic writing.
    -martial arts.
    -“Hey Frenchy, put the chainsaw down”
    – Compartmentalizing “Fight”
    -Writers vs. People who can write.
    -To Arms, two legs and the magic of subtlety.
    -Whatever happened to Dukowski
    -Cross-Cultural experience vs cross-class experience.
    -Where the stories come from

    Songs played:

    Oxbow – Clean Well-Lit Place
    Xiu Xiu – Sharp Dressed Man
    Sal Mineo – the Primary Bell

    Black Face – I Want to Kill You
    Oxbow – The Finished Line

    Shellac – The End of Radio (Closing Theme)

  • Ep097: Mike Blaha (The Blind Shake, BLAHA, Shadow in the Cracks)

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    (stream and download – Episode 97)

    On this episode, Conan and Josh have a chat with Mike Blaha of the Blind Shake and countless variations thereupon! Topics include, but are not limited to:

    -collaborations and being open
    -subbing in bands mid-tour
    -Blind Shake vs. solo writing
    -air-drumming auditions
    -the Blaha health regimen
    -surfin’ with John Reis
    -working through new songs on the road
    -“Play ‘Hurrican!'”
    -acoustic vs. electric
    -“I watch Netflix as much as the next guy”
    -expressing more emotion
    -attempting to book a show before this podcast ends
    -living in small boxes
    -joining Castle Face Records without changing the band’s sound
    -the equal desire for safety and adventure
    -keeping ears open to young bands
    -the conceptual Blind Shake

    Then Mike had to go load out for his solo show, so we ended up talking not exactly about Twin Peaks (although there are a few spoilers if you haven’t watched through episode 8 yet) but more about fandom and experiencing it real-time.…

  • J. RobbinsJ. Robbins

    Ep096: J. Robbins (Jawbox, Burning Airlines, Channels)

    J. Robbins

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    Conan and Josh kick off the show with a brief discussion of big shows from the past weekend, then have a great chat with J. Robbins! Topics include:

    The songwriting process:

    -Bendy guitar loop overdubs
    -Reviving/rewriting old songs and playing acoustic shows
    -Shading confessional songwriting
    -The integrity of a band and its members vs. being the sole songwriter
    -Going out on a musical limb
    -Collaborative projects
    -Using the studio as a compositional tool

    Stories of various recording projects:

    -The great moment when a recording project sounds like a record
    -the Dismemberment Plan
    -What a producer’s role is and/or what it should be
    -the Monorchid
    -Hand-editing 2-inch tape

    The grand story of his brief time playing with Scream:

    -“J., EVERYBODY knows ‘Ballroom Blitz.'”

    Jawbox’s influence, and how influence works in general:

    -Creating your own culture

    We almost entirely avoided discussing politics!

    Music played:

    Jawbox – FF=66
    J. Robbins – Our Own Devices
    Jawbox – Won’t Come Off

    Shellac – End of Radio (Closing Theme)

  • Duane Denison - Jesus Lizard, Tomahawk, DK3Duane Denison - Jesus Lizard, Tomahawk, DK3

    Ep094: Duane Denison (Jesus Lizard, Tomahawk, DK3)

    Duane Denison - Jesus Lizard, Tomahawk, DK3

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    (stream and download – Episode 94)

    What is there to say? Duane Denison is a living legend. We talk DK3, Jesus Lizard, Robert Fripp, technique and process, innovation and inspiration. Did we mention living legend?

    Interview starts at 8:30

    Music played:
    DK3 – Traveling Salesman

    Jesus Lizard – Bloody Mary
    Jesus Lizard – Then Comes Dudley

    Shellac – End of Radio (Closing Theme)…

  • Ep092: Protonic Reversal Top 10 Records of 2016

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    (stream and download – Episode 92)

    It was really hard to get down to 10 for this.
    Anybody that says there’s no good music out there has rocks in their head.

    The list:

    1. Beat Drun Juel – suppressor
    2. Whores – Gold
    3. Nocturnal Habits – New Skin for Old Children
    4. Helms Alee – Stillicide
    5. The Cell Phones – No
    6. Future of the Left – the Peace and Truce of Future of the Left
    7. Blind Shake – Celebrate Your Worth
    8. Savak – Best of Luck in Future Endeavors
    9. The rutabega – unreliable narrator
    10. Christian fitness – this taco is not correct

    5 songs that are not on the top 10 records of 2016

    1. Melvins – Decay of Lying
    2. Big Business – Fathers Day
    3. Maple Stave – Call Sign Spider
    4. Iggy Pop – Paraguay
    5. John Congleton & the Nighty Nite – You are Facing the Wrong Way


    10: Christian fitness – this taco is not correct
    Avid listeners and fans of the show will probably remember… probably remember? How could you forget. Episode 89 with Falco, making a record breaking 4th apperance on protonic, this is a great record. I find that a lot of people don’t know it so much. It’s all pretty much Falco, Jack from Future of the Left, Mclusky plays drums. It’s one of the best records that came out this year, that people haven’t paid that much attention that like this kind of music.
    Reggie Has Asbestos Training

    9. The rutabega – unreliable narrator
    This is their second record, the Unreliable Narrator, a little less epic than Brothers The Lights Don’t Work which has been their classic go-to, but the songs are as solid as can be, and very cool. I think you will appreciate it very much, if you haven’t heard it… you really need to. I’m playing one of the lesser known ones here. There is a very specific thing, there’s emotions! there’s feelings! it’s not just noise all the time. You can find it at Comedy Minus One, they are good people, making good music from South Bend Indiana. I happened to pick the one that is the darkest most emotional journey on the record, that’s how we do at Protonic Reversal.
    I dig this one, this is the moody closer. I’ve Been the Armour

    Also find them at Comedy Minus One
    Josh and Garth appeared on the show all the way back in episode 33!

    8. Savak – Best of Luck in Future Endeavors
    This is a supergroup of sorts, members of Obits and Virgin Islands. I quite like it, I don’t know exactly what I was expecting but it’s a really good hot rocking good time. Episode 84 featured Sohrab of Savak, Obits, Edsel. This record came out early in the year, and I feel like it made a big impact with folks, but I feel like people aren’t giving it the deference it deserves. There’s an almost new wave-y element to it that i’m really into, but this is some serious rock music at the same time.

    Also available on Comedy Minus One

    7. Blind Shake – Celebrate Your Worth
    One of the best bands loosely affiliated with the new garage rock “movement”, they are on their own thing, their own trip. The Blind Shake! Possibly my favorite since Seriousness. Just excellent stuff all around. This one is on Goner.
    This one is a little less noisy, and a little more DEVO from Pluto.

    6. Future of the Left – the Peace and Truce of Future of the Left
    I feel like the last few Future of the Left records are divisive for some reason, people seem to be really into them or not into them at all. And they don’t give them a chance. They dont’ give it a chance. This is a band that keeps getting better, I frankly like them better than mclusky. Which is heretical for a lot of folks and I don’t care. It’s a busy world, out there. You should make time for this one.

    Again Episode 89 for Falco’s last appearance

    5. The Cell Phones – No
    Believe it or not, I find this band a little hard to describe. Truth told, they sound like themselves, but when pressed I say they sound like Tina Turner fronting NoMeansNo, Freddie Mercury fronting DFA1979, Sharon Jones (of Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings) fronting the Minutemen, none of that makes much sense, but it gets you to a starting point. The record is called NO, two words. NO. How do you talk about something like this without just saying: “this kicks ass, shut up stupid, and listen!”. It sounds like it’s from another planet, but I mean that as a compliment!

    4. Helms Alee – Stillicide
    Brace Yourself.
    Great band, one of those bands that are just difficult to describe but are top to bottom wonderful. A unique voice in heavy music, melodic, epic, adventerous.
    Go find them at Sargent House

    3. Nocturnal Habits – New Skin for Old Children
    This is Justin Trosper and Sara from Unwound, with some Two Ton Boa action in there as well. It’s amazing, I love this record, i’ve listened to it lots. One of the deeper cuts on this one. Lush as hell and great stuff. Soothing in it’s way.
    An alternate universe sequel to Leaves Turn Inside you by Unwound.

    Of course Justin Trosper was also on last episode.

    2. Whores – Gold

    Two time guest on the show. Last appearance was episode 90. This is off the record Gold. It’s a bomber. They do a thing that is heavy and noisy, kind of reminds me of KARP-esque things. It’s really good. You can also get the back catalog here. Also worthy! They are receiving a lot of attention right now and it’s a very cool, gravity defying thing.

    1. Beat Drun Juel – suppressor
    You probably don’t know it, and that’s ok. A Chicago band. I slept on listening to this for way too long because I could not remember the name. Which really isn’t that difficult. Once you get it, it’s fine… but you have to get it. This is fucking awesome. It’s PJ Harvey, it’s noiserock, it’s all those things… and it’s own thing.

    So those are the top 10 records of the years.
    I also am tossing in top 5 songs that were not on those records.

    1. Melvins – Decay of Lying

    Stiff competition this year, one of the two Melvins record that came out this year. Basses Loaded, the other being Mike and the Melvins with Mike Kunka of godheadSilo. Basses loaded has a bunch of different bass players on it, and it’s really cool. The lead off track is one of my favorite Melvins songs in awhile, it’s the big Alice Cooper side of what they do, and I like it.

    2. Big Business – Fathers Day

    They’re back as a two piece with a kickass record. It’s got riffs, if you know… you’re into that kind of thing. The record is called Command Your Weather.

    3. Maple Stave – Call Sign Spider

    I had this record for awhile, listened to it and enjoyed it. But this song is the business. From the incredibly politically contentious state of North Carolina. Last song on the record, I like them a lot. Don’t know why it took me so long, frankly. This one gets real close to emo, real close to something i’m not comfortable with at all, but stays on the right side.

    4. Iggy Pop – Paraguay

    One that might actually be on a few lists outside of the Nerd-o-verse. Post-pop Depression, it’s a good good record. I liked it a lot, I didn’t top 10 like it though, I think it has some weak spots and some of lyrics kind of blow. One of my favorite rock ‘n roll people of all time. But it’s true, certainly my favorite Iggy Pop record in years and years though. Kind of his goodbye record, it’s interesting to think of there not being an Iggy Pop around anymore making music. I think it’s kind of awesome that it’s in the last song lyrically too.
    Oh! Do yourself the favor and follow Iggy Pop on instagram to see him hanging out with his bird, it’s amazing.

    5. John Congleton & the Nighty Nite – You are Facing the Wrong Way

    FEEL THOSE CHIMES SUCKA! I love this record, but there are only so many slots. I listen to this one a lot actually. Famed producer John Congleton and ex-pAperchAse

    Christian Fitness – Reggie has Asbestos Training
    the rutabega – I’ve Been the Armor
    SAVAK – Alive in Shadows
    The Blind Shake – Apostle Island
    Future of the Left – Running All Over the Wicket
    The Cell Phones – You Make Me Say No
    Helms Alee – Tit to Toe
    Nocturnal Habits – New Skin
    Whores – I See You Are Also Wearing A Black T-Shirt
    Beat Drun Juel – Hugger

    John Congleton & the Nighty Nite – You Are Facing the Wrong Way
    Iggy Pop – Paraguay
    Maple Stave – Call Station Spider
    Big Business – Father’s Day
    Melvins – Decay of Lying

    The Blind Shake – Reasonable World

    Shellac – The End of Radio (Closing Theme)

  • Ep091: Justin Trosper (Unwound, Survival Knife, Nocturnal Habits)

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    (stream and download – Episode 91)

    Fall records and making things far away from people. Making leaves as an analog recording right in the middle of the digital revolution. Soundbreaking and process change , digital as 4 track, and recording with none of the people in the same room, live bands merging, skipping the “getting going” phase, numero group reissues as nerd wish fulfillment, revisiting the discography, outsiders looking back with rose colored glasses, the cult of instant reaction, post-hardcore, legacy and just doing it, two ton boa , touring during election2016 and Unwound touring during 9/11, politics in music and the value of the personal, survival knife: wha’ happen?, replikants, blade runner remake Brandt on the leaves tour, last Unwound tour as rocky movie and so much more.

    interview begins at 11:40

    Songs Played:

    Nocturnal Habits – Good Grief
    Nocturnal Habits – New Skin

    Nocturnal Habits – Ecophilia
    Unwound – Dragnalus
    Unwound – Terminus

    Shellac – the End of Radio (Closing Theme)

  • Christian Lembach - WhoresChristian Lembach - Whores

    Ep090: Christian Lembach (Whores.)

    Christian Lembach - Whores

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    (stream and download – Episode 90)
    Christian returns to Protonic Reversal to talk about the new whores record GOLD, online presence and communication, bullshit filters, the sacrifices and choices one makes for “living the life” and the trade-offs that ensue, the deep affinity and friendship that comes from a shared esoteric interest, Harrison Ford, quality merch, PRF BBQ Louisville, self awareness and SO. MUCH. MORE.

    Songs Played:

    Whores. – Baby Teeth
    Whores. – Playing Poor
    Shellac – the End of Radio (Closing Theme)

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    Ep084: Sohrab Habibion (Savak, Obits, Edsel)

    photo by Peter Gannushkin / DOWNTOWNMUSIC.NET

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    (stream and download – Episode 84)

    Conan and Brenna talk with the talented guitarist/singer about what constitutes a headphone record, your own genre of badass, punk rock and rules, the Damned and “hard goth”, Legos, confirmation bias, and feedback loops, taxonomic system for music, pen pals, zines and letting things reveal themselves over time, staying social and other people’s stories, recruiting your boss to play bass and opening up space, naming your band after the secret police, band names and history vs. art, collectives and drummers being your kids teacher, the end of Obits, and best of luck in future endeavors. Artisanal, small batch music and culture, PRF Props and more. EVERYTHING MUST BE AWESOME!

    All this guest awesomeness and:
    actual nervous breakdowns, Tahoe and complete changes in life, Conan Doesn’t identify as a tech person and needs to use emojis more, Evan Gritzon and “You Can’t Download Coffee”, Glory Hole Coffee and the Art of Murder, PRF West wrap up.

    Interview starts at 29:18

    Savak – Alive in Shadows



    Savak – Split Decision
    Obits – I’m Closing In



    Savak – Knock Don’t Run
    Shellac – the End of Radio (Closing Theme)

  • Ep081: Brendan Canty (fugazi, Deathfix, Burn to Shine)

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    (stream and download – Episode 81)

    Quick political check in with Drumpf calling for punishments for abortion, then it’s on with Brendan Canty! 31:00 for the over eager.
    Live soundtracks, Brent Green, fugazi children, the fluidity of instant sharing, the lack of endless labor, the arduous wait for a physical release, lots of stuff “out there” these days, sticking it out, relationship with the music as a band and with the fans, on hanging out and NOT being fugazi, records taking a long time and the internal metrics for what it takes, fugazi as cultural shorthand for Conan, Burn to Shine Atlanta, Louisville and beyond, Batman vs. Superman, Zack Snyder is a hack and Embrace the Serpent.

    Songs played:
    Lardo – Gunmetal Eyes
    fugazi – Public Witness Program
    Bob Mould – Circles

    Deathfix – Low Laying Dreams
    fugazi – Brendan #1
    Deathfix – Better Than Bad

  • Ep080: Sean Kirkpatrick (Nervous Curtains, The pAperchAse)


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    (stream and download – Episode 80)

    Being in a synth band in a world of guitars. The Low Defender ep, Abba and Van Halen covers, being a song based synth band, from piano to synths, demos and writing, Is Texas a rough place to be a synthy band?, crazy Texas politicians, circles of shared interests and bias reinforcement, music discovery then and now, rhythm fascination and remixes.

    Nervous Curtains – PMA
    Nervous Curtains – CWII.2

    Lardo – Black Holes
    Nervous Curtains – Light up the Sky (Van Halen)

    Nervous Curtains – Parody
    Nervous Curtains – Low Defender

    Nervous Curtains – the Visitors (Abba)
    Le Butcherettes – Stab My Back
    Nervous Curtains – Krautdog
    Nervous Curtains – Devastator

  • Ep078: Scott Evans/Jon Howell (Kowloon Walled City)


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    (stream and download – Episode 78)

    Kowloon Walled Cities and Roman cities, recording, the symbiosis of antisleep and sharkbite, Tigon and Puig Destroyer, Grievances and the delayed reaction of a “new” record, Less Art, and being identified by name in the San Jose Mercury News, patience and letting it stretch, song based and not “riff based”, Dead Rider, prom songs and stairway to… ? part salads and riff opportunities, unleashing the kraken, rules based music listening, literal music in commercials, opportunities and ceding control, SCION, Guilty pleasures and taking the time to hate things, allegory and storytelling in songs, on children and the future, Unwound, Shiner, Josh Newton and Sie Lieben Maschinen, Snailface (the Blues based Id of KWC), RPM challenge, drummer changes and more.

    Kowloon Walled City – Your Best Years
    Puig Destroyer – Controlled Violence

    Kowloon Walled City – White Walls
    Kowloon Walled City – Daughters and Sons

    Sie Lieben Maschinen – Clever Work
    Snailface – Skin Walker

    Shellac – The End of Radio (Closing Theme)

  • Ep076: Tim Green (The Fucking Champs, Nation of Ulysses, Louder Studios)


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    (stream and download – Episode 76)

    Mortality themes, too soon for Bowie? Palin endorses Trump and vomit ensues, metaphorical puppets. Then we talk with Tim Green about naming your bands after amps or other things in the room, the rise of Louder Studios and moving to Grass Valley, destination recording, writing ridiculous parts for your bandmates, on Josh leaving the Champs, looking for a new DRUMMER, and having Phil Manley join. Timesharing with other bands, the breakup, Boyjazz, The Young, the Young Ginns, Nation of Ulysses and new kids disccovering it every year, on *NOT* visiting Steve in Bali, NOU reunion thoughts, times and places, Melvins shows and much more.

    Interview begins at 32:00 minute mark

    The Fucking Champs- valkyrie is dying
    The Fucking Champs-Extra Man

    The Fucking Champs-You’ve Got a Thirst, Portland
    The Fucking Champs-What’s a Little Reign?

    Shellac – The End of Radio (Closing Theme)

  • Ep073: Tom Hazelmyer (Amphetamine Reptile Records)

    Ep73 - Tom Hazelmyer (AmRep)

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    (stream and download – Episode 73)

    Halloween recap, art of the house party, unknown knowns, The Iceman (Wim Hof not Bobby Drake), Real fucking nasty,Halo of Flies vs. H.O.F. Alice cooper band, thrown ups, “noise”, grounded sensibilities and dope guns fuck of zine to record, not being tied to one format, originality and genre music, new experiences and the classic rock mentality and the confirmation bias. The danger of sticking close to a niche, evolving Tastes, le Butcherettes, bash, Lino cuts and art with a record, music being free (the art object costs), small batch records and letting the artist make money, the lemonade stand of pricing, punk rock celebration of “amateur status”, Internet as the new radio, last thing as the favorite thing, Tom and the melvins, the blind shake, shadow and the crack, grumpys And not being about to afford to fail
    Interview begins at 31:53

    songs played:
    Whores – Bloody Like the Day You Were Born

    Gay Witch Abortion – Two Rats & a Pimp
    Melvins – Real Fucking Nasty

    The Blind Shake – Labor Day
    Shadow in the Cracks – Timeless
    The Cows – Hitting the Wall
    Halo Of Flies – Tired & Cold

    Shellac – the End of Radio (Closing Theme)…

  • Ep070: Phil Manley/Sebastian Thomson (Trans Am)


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    (stream and download – Episode 70)

    IN THIS EPISODE! We have Phil and Sebastian in studio and talk to them about the following:
    Shows in Bethesda, forging a unique sound, Trans Champs and the Fucking Am, Mark Knopfler likes the Fucking Champs, studio Cabana boys, LARPing swords, not being able to write it, but still loving it “Post-Rock” and rock lulls, Juno 60, Thomas Dolby keyboards and bringing on the heartbreak (isolated), Mutt Lange and substractive levels, Whispers, Life Coach update, daylight savings time, Russia bombing things “accidentally” and other bummers. First show ever in Oakland. Hardly Strictly Bluegrass festival and FREEEE DRUGS! DOING IT LIVE! Lots more Def Leppard talk, bike manifestation and Kelly Stoltz-Bike Angel, EL STUDIO! Phil will record you. Picking setlists and encores, Jon Fine and Your Band Sucks, Sebastian’s STRONG OPINIONS of things he has not seen, and things he has not heard. Plans… vocals… Trans Am reacting to itself. NUTS DEEP! Liberation and the Hummer commercial. on NOT taking the money and it not being ok to question the President Bad, Lindsey Lohan sex scene music, and SO MUCH MORE!

    Conan Neutron & the Secret Friends – Casually Intense (Opening Theme)

    Dire Straits – So Far Away
    Trans Am – Play in the Summer

    Trans Am – Television Eyes

    Trans Am – Anthropocene

    Trans Am – Ballbados

    Shellac – The End of Radio (Closing Theme)

  • Ep067: Christian Lembach (Whores.)


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    (stream and download – Episode 67)

    Music as delivery system or community, Harvey Milk, Keeping intensity as one grows older, sincerity and going deep, lyrical content as literal reading vs. gallows humor, song titles first as the box to write in, on trying to not play music, on throwing out songs, bummer-vibe bands being the best people, new records and making the time to write, the soft tyranny of diminished expectations, band names getting a band in trouble, “ok” not being good enough, local scenes, writing and recording a song in 48 hours for AmRep.

    Interview starts at 29 minutes

    Manhandle – Red Dawn
    Whores – I Am Not a Goal Oriented Person
    Whores – I Am An Amateur At Everything

    Neighbor – Two Shadows
    Whores – Jumping Someone Else’s Train

    interview with Christian Lembach of whores.

    Whores – Bloody Like The Day You Were Born
    Shellac – The End of Radio (Closing Theme)

  • Ep066: Buzz Osborne and Dale Crover (The Melvins)


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    (stream and download – Episode 66)

    “I’m Rosemary’s baby!” Movies. Le Butcherettes, Basses loaded and Mike and the Melvins, Buzz almost gets his head blown off, insurance fraud stories, “The amount of work to go through to avoid work.”, The movie Sideways, my dinners with Andre (the giant), Andre and small pac, “never breathe what you can’t see”, Jared warren streaking, earthquakes! Trading Florida for Italy “like living in somebody’s mouth” and SO MUCH MORE!

    Conan Neutron & The Secret Friends – Casually Intense (Opening Theme)
    Melvins – Pearl Bomb
    Melvins – the Water Glass

    interview with the Melvins

    Melvins – Let It All Be
    Melvins – The Bit
    Melvins – Lovely Butterfly
    Melvins – Youth of America
    Melvins – a History of Bad Men

    Shellac – The End of Radio (closing theme)

  • Motherfucker from Athens, GAMotherfucker from Athens, GA

    Ep065: Motherfucker (Erika, Erica, Mandy)

    Motherfucker from Athens, GA

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    (stream and download – Episode 65)

    65 episodes, Old enough to retire, Protonic “Game of Thrones it’s not”, Cinderella’s beasts and the task rabbits, hitting people in the face with magnets, mom love, Carl Sagan’s Ghost, the shocking story behind methwitches, on Audacious names and reactions and the nature of vulgarity and grown up words, MIAMI CONNECTION as the inspiration for Tae Kwon Do the ep, Scott Weilland’s wine lyrics. The yarrrl as the musical equivalent of the vocal fry and Yarrl’s revenge, Mandy’s love of Springsteen, Fyddylestyxxx

    Conan Neutron & the Secret Friends – Casually Intense (Opening theme)
    Motherfucker – Motherfucker – Confetti (In Your Fucking Face)
    Creepoid – Tell The Man
    Motherfucker – Zang!

    Motherfucker – Methwitches
    Shellac – the End of Radio (closing theme)


  • Ep063: Andrew “Falco” Falkous (Future of the Left, mclusky, christian fitness)


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    (stream and download – Episode 63)

    B Hamilton record release round up. the word “Gubernatorial”, militantly believing in nothing, Cohen brothers, there will be blood… Eventually. “The worst PROPER film.”. The process of creation, bands vs tales, Lightsaber Cocksucking Blues as a failed Whole Lotta Rosie rip off, mclusky charity gig wrap up, crowdfunding, stories about songs, song by song, the joy of the act of creation and other general mirth and merriment.
    interview starts at roughly the half hour mark.

    Conan Neutron & the Secret Friends – Casually Intense (Opening Theme)
    Lardo – Clownfish
    christian fitness – All Ghosts to Medicine Counter Four
    mclusky – That Man Will Not Hang

    B. Hamilton – Tight Life
    Flipper – Sex Bomb (single version)

    christian fitness – The Good Sword
    Shellac – The End of Radio (Closing Theme)

  • Ep060: Brett Eugene Ralph (Kentucky Chrome Revue, Rising Shotgun, Malignant Growth)

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    Raconteur and music lifer Brett Eugene comes in to spin tales and shoot the breeze, from singing with Minor Threat, seeing Thin Lizzy at his first show (!), explaining how a punk rocker turned outlaw country and Waylon Jennings getting some hilarious come uppance. There is talk of repurposing the stooges as a redneck, what exactly a “rising shotgun “ is, lyricism and lines and so much more. All of this and some live flash rap/hip-hop compositions and debuts from Practice Wife and Love Moon.

    Episode 60

    Conan Neutron & the Secret Friends – Casually Intense (Opening Theme)

    James Brown – Give It Up or Turn It Loose
    Practice Wife – Notice of Intent
    Brett Eugene Ralph’s Kentucky Chrome Revue – Your Pretty Face Is Going to Hell

    Brett Eugene Ralph’s Kentucky Chrome Revue – Charcoal Grey
    Love Moon – Clouded Bliss

    Tilts – Titanium Falcon
    Lardo – Pedagogue
    Mickey Newberry – Frisco Depot

    Shellac – The End of Radio (Closing Theme)

  • Ep057: Jon Fine (Bitch Magnet, Your Band Sucks [book])

    Episode57: Jon Fine

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    Episode 57

    Jon and Conan talk about the many wonders of his memoir/recollection of a band called Bitch Magnet and a different time in independent music.
    The book is “Your Band Sucks: What I Saw at Indie Rock’s Failed Revolution (But Can No Longer Hear)
    Why polite dullards like Clapton play so limp and lifeless, A Minor Forest’s steam table pizza dashboard scenario, the harsh retrospection of “growing up” and all things in the weird, wild world of the glory days of indie rock.
    All this, plus premieres by Lardo and B. Hamilton

    Conan Neutron & the Secret Friends – Casually Intense (Opening Theme)
    B.Hamilton – Fucking in a Flophouse
    Bitch Magnet – Motor
    Bitch Magnet – Clay

    Bitch Magnet – Americruiser
    Bitch Magnet – Ducks and Drakes
    Lardo – Gunmetal Eyes

    Bitch Magnet – Dragoon

    Shellac – the End of Radio (Closing Theme)

  • Ep055: J. Robbins (Jawbox, Burning Airlines, Office of Future Plans)

    episode55 - J. Robbins - Jawbox

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    Episode 55

    Career spanning interview about punk rock, Jawbox origin story, Band thank you notes, guitars that fight each other, recording the S/T album and the end of the band, Burning Airlines before and after 9/11, Channels! Office of Future Plans! Acoustic! Cello!
    Interview begins at 33:18 after the Jaw-BLOCK. GET IT? GET IT?

    Conan Neutron & the Secret Friends – Casually Intense (Opening theme)
    Jawbox – FF=66
    Jawbox – Won’t Come Off
    Jawbox – U trau
    Jawbox – Sound on Sound

    Jawbox – Green Glass
    Jawbone – his Only trade
    Jawbox – 68
    Jawbox – Desert Sea
    Jawbox – Static

    Jawbox – Savory
    Burning Airlines – Wheaton Calling
    Office of Future Plans – Harden Your Heart
    Jawbox – Mirrorful
    Shellac – The End of Radio (closing theme)

  • Ep046: Tony Molina

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    Daylight savings time is stupid and Conan rants about it. What to do when youtube flags your own song for copyright violation. Replicator. In hour two they talk to Tony Molina. Speaking to classic rock, ZZ Top, Pantera party houses and blood fountains and Brenna tells a cautionary tale of why you should be careful in strange cities.

    8:00am: Casually Intense (opening theme) by Conan Neutron & the Secret Friends
    8:17am: Dragging Your Axe by Eastern Anchors from Dragging Your Axe Behind You

    8:19am: Shiny Destination by the rutabega from Shiny Destination

    8:26am: Henry Don’t Get Love by Le Butcherettes from Sin Sin Sin
    8:32am: Going Home by Thoughts Detecting Machines from Forget

    8:52am: Keep Your Mouth Closed by Risk/Reward from Risk/Reward
    8:55am: ESPN Zone by Room Runner from Seperate

    9:01am: Poor Born by Dead Moon
    9:04am: Poor Born by The Bismarck
    9:07am: Hydronauts by Nonagon from the Last Hydronaut

    9:22am: Change My Ways by Tony Molina from Dissed and Dismissed
    9:22am: Can’t Believe by Tony Molina from Dissed and Dismissed

    9:53am: The Way Things Are by Tony Molina from Dissed and Dismissed
    9:54am: See Me Through by Tony Molina from Dissed and Dismissed

    9:58am: The end of Radio by Shellac from Excellent Italian Greyhound (Closing Theme)

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